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by J Benji, Level 31
Last updated at September 16, 2007, 6:05 am
On Saturday, Superpaul (Dark Iron) posted his PvP video (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602253705&sid=1) and as a Warlock I felt it was my duty to watch it, and I guess in turn give my lovely opinion on it.



For anyone who doesn’t know who Superpaul is, he is the best Warlock in the world. Why? Season 1 his team was rated 2701. 2701 is damn hard to hit, imagine losing 30 points a loss to the rank 2 team for a mere 5 for a win. THATS what they did, and to push and end up with a rating like it, it's amazing (http://www.wowarmory.com/hall-team-info.xml?se=1&r=Dark+Iron&ts=2&t=Baby+dont+hurt+me&select=Baby+dont+hurt+me)



Regardless that is past, currently he runs with a Paladin named Dontjudgeme who is slightly under geared, as opposed to Pronne who has moved to Tich.



The Video:



Basically the video consists of 3 arena matches and 2 duels. The duels are against one of the better PvP Warriors on the server in which he wins, barely, as well as against a PvE Rogue with some PvP Gear, meaning he has BT weapons and can dish out some decent damage as well as has some stam from the PvP gear to last a decent amount of time. He only wins this one through a damn nice kite after being burst down to 20%. Standing still and draining doesn’t work against rogues, and it shows this CLEARLY.



The 4 Arenas.



The first game is beautiful. He goes in with his Paladin against a Druid/Rogue/Lock combo (3v2 for those bad at math). The problem was the lack of offensive dispel (felhunter doesn’t really count as its sitting on the pally keeping him in combat) so the Rogue was being thrown around with fears and COEX and it turns into a long game, which is hard as Rogues and Warlocks last forever. There were a few mistakes (mostly positional) however they were minor and didn’t win or lose the game. Reapplying felarmor would have been a good decision, especially before bandaging and Cannibalizing, to gain a little more health.



The 2 other 3v2's are against a Warrior/Mage/Priest combo and a Priest/Warlock/Warlock combo which he plays 2 different strategies, one a pure cc healer burn down the other guys and the other a mix of draining and bursting (if you can call Sl/SL damage 'burst'). Both are good games and I’ll try not to spoil it for those who haven’t seen them.



The last arena game is a 3v3 between Warlock/Pally/Warrior vs. Warlock/Pally/Warrior which was a decent game to watch. Very hard to follow what’s happening, but basically they started by opening on the Warlock as well as dotting the Warrior and CCing the Pally. Didn't work as nothing died so the damage shifted to the Paladin with dots on the Warlock and both targets dropped almost at the same time. One mistake I can't help but comment on was trying to fear a Deathwished Warrior, the GCD would have been better spent dotting something (anything!).



Regardless, it’s a great video, nice and short at a little under 20 min, but still some good viewing for anyone.



I have personally played against Superpauls team in 3's, and the team is very good, and well coordinated. We got destroyed for a few games, although Spriest/Lock/HPriest doesn’t do to well against Warriors with good healers.



Finally, I'm sure to get some 'LOLFEARDOTODOTDOT' comments, but honestly every class is the same, there’s the good old FROSTNOVAICELANCEICELANCE, the NS+EM+CL+ES and the good old CHARGEHAMSTRINGMS. The skill comes in the kiting, and Warlocks are probably the second worst ranged class for kiting (behind Priests) with only Deathcoil to get a melee person off you.
     
40 comments
BEASTWOOD
BEASTWOOD Sep 16, 2007 at 6:29 am
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Warlock... 2v2... I think I'll spare myself 30 minutes of LOLFEARDOTODOTDOT
BEASTWOOD
BEASTWOOD Sep 16, 2007 at 6:46 am
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Nvm I take that back I got bored.. The best warlock in the world clicks, who would've thought??!?!
NasboT
NasboT Sep 16, 2007 at 9:04 am
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Well now imagine a hotkey-using WL. zomgf.
J Benji
J Benji Sep 16, 2007 at 9:13 am
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Because every warlock binds every single key they have.

Honestly who binds bandage to anything?
Akrios
Akrios Oct 26, 2008 at 2:01 pm
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who doesn't bind bandage? Oh that's right, terribles
Panos_
Panos_ Sep 16, 2007 at 9:49 am
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most people do? doh

need more world-best mouseclickers plx
nzgs
nzgs Sep 16, 2007 at 1:13 pm
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i binded bandage within 2 weeks of starting wow. I think any decent pvper has every skill binded. This video is awful, it is just another demonstration of crap players doing well due to class/gear, almost as good as papaschlapa.
Moreli
Moreli Sep 16, 2007 at 3:32 pm
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it is just another demonstration of crap players doing well due to class/gear, almost as good as papaschlapa.

No, I've played against him in 2v2 and while he might have class balance going for him, he is a ******* amazing player. He managed to kill my warlocks pet during a dc,fear,HoJ rotation and then when my warlock went to quick summon another felhunter back, he spell locked him and devoured fel domination.

After the match I was thinking to myself how it was all luck, but I remember being surprised at how the felhunter was going back and forth between my partner and I, and why he switched from CoA to CoT and my partner told me not to decurse him.
Oozo
Oozo Sep 17, 2007 at 1:02 am
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"Honestly who binds bandage to anything?"

Hrm, I do.. bound to B on both my rogue and shadowpriest.  How amazing is that! 
Bronxie
Bronxie Sep 16, 2007 at 6:42 am
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hoodrych
hoodrych Sep 16, 2007 at 6:50 am
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i like how he practically out heals his paladin every game

grats warlocks
gso
gso Sep 16, 2007 at 2:14 pm
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His paladin is very very good.

Not that that has anything to do with your comment but..
Xom AA
Xom AA Sep 16, 2007 at 10:17 am
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i like how in the 2v3 (which was **TOTALLY INTENSE**) he clicks the warlock corpse and then clicks cannabalize.
Oozo
Oozo Sep 17, 2007 at 1:07 am
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Yeah, but who has cannibalize bound?  C'mon??

Hrm... yeah, actually I guess I got that one bound too.
padrote
padrote Oct 3, 2007 at 3:12 pm
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Add the fact that you don't need to target anything with cannibalize.
Hid
Hid Sep 16, 2007 at 10:25 am
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This is not really news, but watching it makes me a sad panda. There's actually a full merc warlock clicker/keyboard turner on my realm that beats me in 1v1 (full merc, pve rings/neck/cloak 23/0/38 rogue) even if I use prep. All it takes for him to win is to use HS, voidy from the start, sac and instasummon a new one. One time I almost won (me at 20% hp, him at 5%, all voids down), and he popped the engi belt.

Like 14k hp, 480 resil, 1k spelldmg *sigh*

I do beat him if he doesn't use voidy though, but with voidy it doesn't matter what I do, even if I manage to CloS DC and interrupt every DL instantly it's still so extremly close, and all it takes for him to get a "free" win is to use his 15 min CD.
Nobbeh
Nobbeh Sep 16, 2007 at 10:30 am
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Video was interesting, decent player.
Raptoreyes
Raptoreyes Sep 16, 2007 at 11:53 am
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Not the best warlock.  I have seen better.  Superpaul is pretty good.   Azael and Heidiheinaken are better. Their are also many horde lock videos that are better.  Ignore the blatant anti warlock posts.... warlock bashing has been in fashion since patch 1.8 and will not stop until warlocks are total crap in pvp again.
nzgs
nzgs Sep 16, 2007 at 1:16 pm
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WTS MIDDLE GROUND. If you nerf something completely overpowered, it becomes total crap rite? You are a moron, warlocks are overpowered, everytime warlocks release another movie it just reinforces their own status. If you want to prove your skill in movie, don't play a warlock because it is like driving an F1 car in a kart race.
Raptoreyes
Raptoreyes Sep 16, 2007 at 1:43 pm
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Somebody got rocked by a warlock recently and needs to vent.... their their you poor baby.

Oh and do not get class mixed up with gear scaling when talking about power. Warlocks are sub average in blue gear but above average in epics.... blame blizzard and thier PVE style gearing and need to balance both pve and pvp. You will never have balance in a pvp game that is burdened with PvE based rewards for time played. All pvp gear is in WoW is the old PvE gear with some resilence slapped on and some damage taken off.

Resilience was a band aid fix that served its purpose to get pvp folks buying the game for a long enough time to make the expansion a bigger commercial success. Now that the devs/Vivendi Universal got what they wanted, they no longer need to do the hard chore of balancing pvp because they have made their money already.... all future money is just gravy to them. Sadly developing PvE content is easier and the "pve sheep" do no complain much about imbalances that would drive pvp folks wild with rage.

In the end the ENDGAME WARLOCKS that people complain about BETTER BE GOOD because they sucked so much in early TBC gear.   Warlocks are having their turn and soon it will be somebody elses when gear scaling empowers somebody else.  The real meaning of Rock siccors and paper in a nutshell.
Cooldown
Cooldown Sep 16, 2007 at 1:54 pm
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"Somebody got rocked by a warlock recently and needs to vent.... their their you poor baby."

this coming from the tool who's cried about rogues since 41 point talents were announced

stop being a ******* hypocrite ***ass
gso
gso Sep 16, 2007 at 2:11 pm
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Heidi is better than superpaul.

Pronne was absolutely amazing though. That's the major reason why they hit 2700, plus a makeup that has no hard counters.
Raptoreyes
Raptoreyes Sep 16, 2007 at 2:12 pm
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If resilience scaling has taught us anything its that some classes (Rogues) are OVERpowered before resilience scaling and UNDERpowered after people really stack it up.

Warlocks are the opposite end of this. The class sucked so bad early season 1 that warlocks were not brought to the better 3s and 5s arena groups at all. (where all the points are). Full season one gear balanced them and season 2 gear just scaled warriors and locks out of control. The classes are pretty balanced but lightly disguised PVE gear will never create enduring balance in a pvp setting (especially when its upgraded every 3 months). Balance is IMPOSSIBLE on a PvE style 3 month upgrade calendar. This is not really about warlocks per say.

If you want real pvp balance for all pvp settings you have to play Guild Wars.... too bad world pvp is impossible their and the graphics are not nearly so well done.... but its truly balanced.  Cry about balance in a game like GW or Fury where its developers actually give a big fat turd about the pvp.

PvP in WoW is an afterthought to pad the games profit margin and NOTHINE ELSE!!!
Raptoreyes
Raptoreyes Sep 16, 2007 at 2:22 pm
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Sorry GSO but you may be right about Ponne.  Ill go "lock" up one of his videos and "coil" it on to my divxplayer. (hopefully the bad puns scare off the trolls)
TehJerk
TehJerk Sep 19, 2007 at 8:18 pm
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ummm Warlocks have been fine if not great ever since deathcoil, and that was a LONG time ago, like 6 months after release.

Spare me the "we've been gimped for so long" BS, when you've always been the 'anti-caster', which includes more classes than 'anti-melee'
TehJerk
TehJerk Sep 19, 2007 at 8:22 pm
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lollolz guild wars - the poor man's WoW.  I dont think i've ever been more disappointed in a game in relation to its hype :0
Raptoreyes
Raptoreyes Sep 20, 2007 at 1:08 am
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Just saying they are bad in blue gear and great in epics. You assume to much



Oh and early Guild Wars was disappointing until about 2 months after Factions came out.... then things became far more balanced.
Jayoh
Jayoh Sep 16, 2007 at 3:08 pm
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Chidna
Chidna Sep 16, 2007 at 3:10 pm
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It might be completely irrelevant but i still think you should see the stats on this lock http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Twisting%20Nether&n=Exael i think it's pretty scary atleast
tempo
tempo Sep 16, 2007 at 4:59 pm
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Good video, enjoyed it.  Cheers for posting!
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