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by Serennia, Level 58
Last updated at August 29, 2008, 10:21 pm
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-trauma and sudden death switched spots in the talent tree
-toughness now grants up to 50% movement impair reduction
-strength of arms and unrelenting assault switched places in arms
-intensify rage and precision switched places in fury
-sword and board increased from 10% to 15% chance
-critical block changed to add 15% crit on shield slam, in addition to previous effect
-new ability in deep prot (charge; bugged?)
-safeguard now 2 ranks instead of 3 for same effectiveness
-vigilance tweaked slightly
-improved defensive stance causes an enrage effect when you dodge, block, or parry
-improved shield wall increases effect by 5/10% now in addition to duration
-improved disarm reduced to 2 ranks for same effectiveness
-improved revenge reduced to 2 ranks for 10/20% damage and 25/50% chance to stun
-puncture changed to 2 ranks and only reduces sunder/devastate by 1/2 rage now
Weapon Throw (Level 80)
Throws your weapon at the enemy causing [ 100% of AP + 1 ] damage (based on attack power). This ability causes high threat.
30 yd range, 0.5 sec cast, 20 sec cooldown
Enraged Assault (Level 75)
A furious assault that consumes an Enrage effect on the warrior and attacks with all weapons. Can only be used while Enraged.
15 Rage, 5 yd range, Instant, 10 sec cooldown
Basically every arena warrior is going to have last stand now, interesting.

102 comments
Mikevercetti Aug 29, 2008 at 10:34 pm
+1 votes
Hmm, warrior talents are looking interesting. Fury looks nice but you'll miss a lot from arms/prot trees, so it'll be interesting to see how things end up.
panzer Aug 29, 2008 at 10:39 pm
+1 votes
Weapon Throw, finally an instant attack for tanks that have to pull all the time.
Drrew Aug 29, 2008 at 10:44 pm
+1 votes
thanks!
i messed around with 21 points into prot for a bit earlier this year, and having last stand was pretty sweet. looking forward to having it in a more viable build in the expansion
i messed around with 21 points into prot for a bit earlier this year, and having last stand was pretty sweet. looking forward to having it in a more viable build in the expansion
BEASTWOOD Aug 29, 2008 at 10:44 pm
+1 votes
Either no wrecking crew or no piercing howl if you get toughness as arms
And no impale/imp overpower/iron will if you go TG with toughness
Hmm should be interesting choice I guess
And no impale/imp overpower/iron will if you go TG with toughness
Hmm should be interesting choice I guess
Elorah Aug 29, 2008 at 10:48 pm
+1 votes
why not drop 2 out of blood craze and get imp disarm? and at that point, might as well take the other point and put it back in 2h spec
Persist Aug 29, 2008 at 10:49 pm
+1 votes
Completely foregoing all enrage? Interesting to see how it'd go, looks like a solid spec regardless.
Zilea Aug 29, 2008 at 10:51 pm
+1 votes
what? You realize no warrior without Furious Attacks will succeed in arena right? Hunger for Blood = no ms for 6 seconds + hamstring comes off quickly and easily vs 2 MS applications and hamstring
hoodrych Aug 29, 2008 at 10:59 pm
+10 votes
you realize warriors only MS rogues like 20% of the time because it's dodged regardless, right?
i coulve just told you this on vent but figured id post b/c you're an idiot
i coulve just told you this on vent but figured id post b/c you're an idiot
Inactive Aug 30, 2008 at 1:49 am
+1 votes
I doubt anything that has a free debuff removal that is spammable is going to stay in like that. It's like saying "here rogues, have your personal BOP that doesn't stop you from attacking and gives you 15% more dmg!"
Oh, and did I mention you also receive 20% more healing from going mutilate anyways... Somehow unless blizzard is stupid (which they have proven over and over they are capable of doing such stupid things) I don't think the change will go through
Oh, and did I mention you also receive 20% more healing from going mutilate anyways... Somehow unless blizzard is stupid (which they have proven over and over they are capable of doing such stupid things) I don't think the change will go through
kavekk Aug 31, 2008 at 1:01 am
+1 votes
But Ming thinks all rogues will be ShS regardless.
When has Ming been wrong about an upcoming Blizzard expansion pack!?!?
When has Ming been wrong about an upcoming Blizzard expansion pack!?!?
El Conando Aug 30, 2008 at 5:28 am
+1 votes
yeah thats a pretty solid spec. what are your thoughts on the Improved MS talent?
Krol Aug 30, 2008 at 10:12 am
+1 votes
sorry bro, but any spec without 51 in fury will be a complete epic fail.I know that all attention now is at the new talent in prot, but thats a big mistake.
BUT.
If you STILL want a spec with tougnness, then go down till conc blow, then you will have control.
BUT.
If you STILL want a spec with tougnness, then go down till conc blow, then you will have control.
Bleiklol Aug 29, 2008 at 10:55 pm
+1 votes
Why arms over fury?
As far as my beta testing goes my fury damage exceed arms damage by alot, and imo 10 second intercept cooldown is just about as good as heroic leap is.
Also being able to be shielded with a 2hander is a big deal for arena, 2handed + shield dps is going to be extremely strong aswell.
A 10 second point making I get to this
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=000000000000000000000000000000020332100500000000000000000005050131305012253102511351
As far as my beta testing goes my fury damage exceed arms damage by alot, and imo 10 second intercept cooldown is just about as good as heroic leap is.
Also being able to be shielded with a 2hander is a big deal for arena, 2handed + shield dps is going to be extremely strong aswell.
A 10 second point making I get to this
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=000000000000000000000000000000020332100500000000000000000005050131305012253102511351
Bleiklol Aug 29, 2008 at 11:10 pm
+1 votes
Well as I said just a 10 second point masher into fury..
Point still stands tho, why arms over fury?
2x 2handers no penalty, 2.88 speed with flurry up, 5% extra crit (makes up for no axe/sword speci) furious attacks, more or less as good burst. (BT crit > Instant Slam > WW, ww with 2 handers is really good, 3k + 2.5k crits ftw)
More rage aswell.
Point still stands tho, why arms over fury?
2x 2handers no penalty, 2.88 speed with flurry up, 5% extra crit (makes up for no axe/sword speci) furious attacks, more or less as good burst. (BT crit > Instant Slam > WW, ww with 2 handers is really good, 3k + 2.5k crits ftw)
More rage aswell.
El Conando Aug 30, 2008 at 5:30 am
+1 votes
because no improved intercept, and heroic leap is awful for warrior pvp?
Krol Aug 30, 2008 at 10:14 am
+1 votes
heroic leap will be fixed 100%. Blizzard's intention is to make fury a direct alternative to arms and they will tweak it untill it will be, no point to beat the dead horse now, its too early.
Vaim Aug 30, 2008 at 9:26 am
+1 votes
Exactly what i was thinking when i read the notes.
"Did i just read they get a ranged attack doing 100% of AP, which is 2,5k easy at lvl 70"
No way that's gonna stay like this unless it's some 50 point prot talent.
"Did i just read they get a ranged attack doing 100% of AP, which is 2,5k easy at lvl 70"
No way that's gonna stay like this unless it's some 50 point prot talent.
Serennia Aug 29, 2008 at 11:08 pm
+1 votes
update: the 9th tier prot talent "Charge" allows the use of charge in combat
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