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by briyan, Level 45
Last updated at June 16, 2008, 2:29 pm
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The AoC Launch Numbers
While the videogame media tossed around some big numbers at the AoC launch, including a major figure of 700,000 copies, the actual sales numbers were unknown, as Funcom could not/would not report any details beyond what they had shipped to retailers. Recent inside information, however, has given us more details about what happened to these 700,000 copies of the game.
That's right, we have a rather unhappy picture as we near the "one month" point for Age of Conan.
* ~40% are still sitting on retailer shelves
* ~30% were bought and returned due to insufficient system reqs
* ~20% were bought and installed but canceled without subscribing
* ~10% were bought and set up a subscription to continue playing
Of the much-hyped 700,000 number, this leaves us with about 70,000 Active Players in the world of Hyboria.
Missing The Mark By 86%
Is 70,000 players enough of a "critical mass" to sustain community growth and allow the game to maintain a playerbase as time goes on? Funcom initially estimated that they would need about 500,000 monthly subscriptions for a "break even" point to sustain the game. The server maintenance costs and massive initial development time on a resource-heavy game like Age of Conan are such that this figure will need to be reached within six months of launch if there is any hope for the game to live on. One month after release, they have achieved 14% of their goal, and the player base is trending downward. Not good news for Conan fans.
What Went Wrong?
In assessing the damages, Funcom officials are hesitant to speculate on problems with the game in fear of scaring off even more of their dwindling playerbase, but I will go out on a limb here and make some guesses for the benefit of my readers.
1. Nobody Can Run The Game
This must be a big factor, given that half of the copies that actually sold came right back to the retail store because users could not run the game. System requirements proved too high to reach beyond the tight-knit group of "hardcore" gamers who spend thousands per year on PC gaming.
2. The World Has No Character
Age of Conan's designers attempted to deliver us a dark, gritty, realism-themed world that ended up feeling derivative, lifeless, and boring. The legions of gamers who enjoy MMO as an escape into an alternate world found Hyboria devoid of magical excitement, fun, and wonder.
3. World of Warcraft Raised The Bar Too High
After over three years of playing a polished, highly stable product from Blizzard, the masses of new and old MMO fans coming from World of Warcraft to "try something new" were disgusted with the instability of the game client, the poor response of the customer service teams, and the general poor pacing and lack of content offered in Age of Conan. This level of service may have been OK five years ago, but gamers won't accept it now after they've been spoiled by WoW.
4. Funcom Broke Promises That Never Should Have Been Made
World PvP, large scale outdoor battles, and Guild warfare were all hyped in Age of Conan, but none of it was delivered. When players took too much control over the world, developers swiftly removed access and implemented lockdown controls to convert the game into a fairy-tale amusement park.
Yet another developer failed to realize that an open-ended large-scale PvP with total freedom is not only technically impossible, but is also not enjoyable for most players. Games need structure and direction to provide entertainment, even though a few hardcore gamers think they will have more fun without it. Funcom attempted to bait the hardcore gamers by promising that which they could not deliver, and the hardcore gamers called their bluff.
5. The Game Is Bad
Combat system is bad, world is bad, interface is bad, everything is bad. This game was built around graphics and an opportunistic release in a lull period for World of Warcraft. Sales were made and then lost as gamers realized it truly was just a bunch of hype.
Can It Be Fixed?
At this point, Age of Conan appears to be doomed. Only a tiny fraction of people who tried the game are interested in playing, and Funcom is making changes that alienate more active subscribers each day. It won't be long before we see more free playtime promotions, refer-a-friend, and deep discounts at the retail level as Age of Conan breathes its dying breath.
The only money to be made at this point is to sell the game box based on the graphics and marketing materials. With a converted subscription rate of less than 10%, Funcom has to be satisfied with this failed experiment and move on to their next project.
People Would Rather Wait For More WoW
The sad truth that we realize, after this past month, is that speculating and reading about upcoming changes for WoW: WotLK is actually more fun and interesting than playing Age of Conan.
Shame on Funcom, or congrats to Blizzard? Who knows. Either way, it's time to say an official "Goodbye" to Age of Conan.

276 comments
Nobbeh Jun 16, 2008 at 2:35 pm
-2 votes
defo number one for me, was looking so forward to playing it but threw in the towel simply because i couldnt run it 
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 2:39 pm
-3 votes
I feel your pain Nobbeh ... the same thing happened to half the people who bought the game. It's really too bad more people couldn't give it an honest go.
Nobbeh Jun 16, 2008 at 2:50 pm
+0 votes
All settings were on the lowest of low and it wouldn't run, getting a pc upgrade in the summer for getting good results in my GCSE's.
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 3:17 pm
-3 votes
Are you going to try AoC again with the new PC or not even bother?
Nobbeh Jun 16, 2008 at 3:26 pm
+2 votes
hmmm, not sure. I did like AOC when i was playing it so i might give it a spin, however i'm getting into UT3 again :O!
Godsmak Jun 16, 2008 at 3:46 pm
+3 votes
It's sad a lot of people cannot run AoC. Partly is because everyone has been accustomed to WoW's low-grade system requirements. I think my Nintendo can run WoW.
Regardless, you upgrade your comp and give AoC a try. Don't be a douche and give up like a ***** before lvl 8 (I think Vir got ganked and camped), have some more perseverance and you'll grow to like it more.
Regardless, you upgrade your comp and give AoC a try. Don't be a douche and give up like a ***** before lvl 8 (I think Vir got ganked and camped), have some more perseverance and you'll grow to like it more.
Reason Jun 16, 2008 at 5:56 pm
+0 votes
Godsmak you need to stop being a **** head and immediately labeling everyone that doesn't like the game as *****es and care bears if they don't like it.
THERE IS NOT A SINGLE WoW PLAYER POSTING HERE ON GAMERIOT THAT DOESN'T WANT SOMETHING TO KICK WoW IN THE TEETH AND TAKE OVER. EVERYONE WANTS SOMETHING NEW - UNFORTUNATELY IT HAS NOT ARRIVED!
AoC is not it dude. I tried it - and I'd rather play ShadowBane while waiting for WoW expansion or soemthing to knock BLizzard off the block. It'll happen one day.
THERE IS NOT A SINGLE WoW PLAYER POSTING HERE ON GAMERIOT THAT DOESN'T WANT SOMETHING TO KICK WoW IN THE TEETH AND TAKE OVER. EVERYONE WANTS SOMETHING NEW - UNFORTUNATELY IT HAS NOT ARRIVED!
AoC is not it dude. I tried it - and I'd rather play ShadowBane while waiting for WoW expansion or soemthing to knock BLizzard off the block. It'll happen one day.
Godsmak Jun 16, 2008 at 6:35 pm
+2 votes
AoC isn't perfect, it has **** that drives me nuts. But I would rather play AoC than WoW any ******* day of the week.
AoC > WoW
AoC > WoW
Kaex Jun 16, 2008 at 5:28 pm
-1 votes
Yea, I remember someone claiming they played AoC on a 2 year old system, not only that but on max settings. I instantly called BS on this. AoC demands too good of a computer.
Godsmak Jun 16, 2008 at 6:39 pm
+2 votes
My comps over a year and a half old, E6600 core 2 duo. I've since upgraded to 4 gigs of ram, GeForce 9800 and Vista. Those 3 things are huge for AoC, Vista alone provided faster loading and better performance. I run everything full detail without a stutter.
People need to get the stupid mentality out of their brains that "AoC doesn't run on my comp so I am just going to ***** and complain and quit." Games are constantly being upgraded and the newer games that come out are going to be even more taxing on your comp.
People need to get the stupid mentality out of their brains that "AoC doesn't run on my comp so I am just going to ***** and complain and quit." Games are constantly being upgraded and the newer games that come out are going to be even more taxing on your comp.
Kaex Jun 16, 2008 at 9:54 pm
+0 votes
So you spent roughly 400-500$ to play a game. Sorry not doing that, Yea I'll upgrade my comp soon, but not just to play AoC, it will be because my comp finally can't do what I want it to do.
FYI, AoC runs better on Vista because Vista is DX10. XP doesn't have that and AoC is a DX10 game primarily.
FYI, AoC runs better on Vista because Vista is DX10. XP doesn't have that and AoC is a DX10 game primarily.
Godsmak Jun 16, 2008 at 10:49 pm
+2 votes
Are you asking me if I spent that much for AoC or making a statement?
Yes I realize that about Vista, thanks doctor
Yes I realize that about Vista, thanks doctor
Thadius Jun 17, 2008 at 5:43 am
+3 votes
"FYI, AoC runs better on Vista because Vista is DX10. XP doesn't have that and AoC is a DX10 game primarily."
This is false, because DX10 is not in AoC as of right now. It won't be implemented until August, sometime.
This is false, because DX10 is not in AoC as of right now. It won't be implemented until August, sometime.
Kaex Jun 17, 2008 at 10:04 am
+1 votes
Rofl, wait so another broken promise? WoW AoC just gets worse and worse. So basically the game is early beta right?
Malcolm Jun 17, 2008 at 10:34 am
+2 votes
Godsmak, this is the first time I've ever seen you post something that wasn't completely retarded. So, first of all, congratulations.
Second of all, I agree with you entirely.
While World of Warcraft has done a lot of PC gaming at a time when it seems to be dying out, it has also hindered the industry. There are a lot of people who want to play PC games who don't know dick about computers. World of Warcraft catered to these people by launching a game with purposely dated graphics in order to lower system requirements and have access to a large playing base. You can play WoW with even the ****tiest of computers dating back several years. This is not the norm for PC gaming.
What we have now is a huge population of gamers who are finally getting tired of WoW, but they have ****ty computers which they haven't ever upgraded because all they've been doing is playing a game with terrible graphics and low system requirements. They are trying to move on to a game with a modern graphics engine and (1) their system cannot handle it at acceptable detail settings, (2) they don't have enough knowledge to properly tweak the game and their system in order to improve performance because they have never had to do so before.
Second of all, I agree with you entirely.
While World of Warcraft has done a lot of PC gaming at a time when it seems to be dying out, it has also hindered the industry. There are a lot of people who want to play PC games who don't know dick about computers. World of Warcraft catered to these people by launching a game with purposely dated graphics in order to lower system requirements and have access to a large playing base. You can play WoW with even the ****tiest of computers dating back several years. This is not the norm for PC gaming.
What we have now is a huge population of gamers who are finally getting tired of WoW, but they have ****ty computers which they haven't ever upgraded because all they've been doing is playing a game with terrible graphics and low system requirements. They are trying to move on to a game with a modern graphics engine and (1) their system cannot handle it at acceptable detail settings, (2) they don't have enough knowledge to properly tweak the game and their system in order to improve performance because they have never had to do so before.
Godsmak Jun 17, 2008 at 10:50 am
+2 votes
95% of GR is retarded, how else can I properly act in this cesspool?
Kaex Jun 17, 2008 at 5:08 pm
+1 votes
Your GR account is named after a ****ty band. Please tell us all again how you're mature.
Godsmak Jun 17, 2008 at 6:22 pm
+2 votes
Which band?
Where did I say I was mature?
You're pretty defensive, did you put money into GR?
Where did I say I was mature?
You're pretty defensive, did you put money into GR?
Kaex Jun 18, 2008 at 10:35 am
+0 votes
You're pretty defensive, did you put money into GR?
lol?
And the ****ty band you named your account after bud. Play stupid all you want.
Godsmak Jun 18, 2008 at 11:00 am
+1 votes
You should probably go take a nap and calm your nerves. I didn't mean to rattle you so much.
Godsmak Jun 18, 2008 at 5:39 pm
+1 votes
oh and btw, the band is "GODSMACK"
I am "THE GODSMAK"
That band had maybe 1 good song, decent name and I have had for years (2001?). Not my FPS name however
XOXOXO
I am "THE GODSMAK"
That band had maybe 1 good song, decent name and I have had for years (2001?). Not my FPS name however
XOXOXO
briyan Jun 18, 2008 at 5:41 pm
+1 votes
Don't forget the Alice in Chains song "God Smack" ... maybe the band took their name from that, not sure.
Kaex Jun 17, 2008 at 5:09 pm
+1 votes
So what you're saying is WoW was smart because they made their game available to the majority of players. Ok got ya.
Malcolm Jun 18, 2008 at 12:57 pm
+1 votes
Wow, you can read. Congratulations.
Smart from the perspective of an individual business, yes. Stupid from the perspective of the industry as a whole.
Smart from the perspective of an individual business, yes. Stupid from the perspective of the industry as a whole.
Kaex Jun 18, 2008 at 5:17 pm
+1 votes
How is it hurting the industry? Do you even live in the US where prices for everything go up on a daily basis yet pay doesn't? Many people can't afford to buy a brand new computer regardless of how cheap it would be to buy one to play a game like AoC.
Malcolm Jun 19, 2008 at 1:47 pm
+1 votes
It hurts the industry because it fosters stagnancy in the evolution of gaming, particularly in terms of graphics.
With regards to the cost of a computer: I'm a fairly recent college grad in the US who works in research and therefore makes very little money. I have student loans, a car lease, rent, and all of the other various expenses that people have in a city that has one of the highest costs of living on the planet (New York). And yet I had no trouble buying a new computer last year and I know it's going to last a long time because I did my research. The whole thing came out to roughly a grand, and I won't have to upgrade anything for at least another year, probably two.
And AoC does NOT require a brand new computer.
With regards to the cost of a computer: I'm a fairly recent college grad in the US who works in research and therefore makes very little money. I have student loans, a car lease, rent, and all of the other various expenses that people have in a city that has one of the highest costs of living on the planet (New York). And yet I had no trouble buying a new computer last year and I know it's going to last a long time because I did my research. The whole thing came out to roughly a grand, and I won't have to upgrade anything for at least another year, probably two.
And AoC does NOT require a brand new computer.
Kaex Jun 19, 2008 at 5:16 pm
+1 votes
I'm sorry, but what is "little money" to you? Car Lease= roughly 250$ a
month, assuming you drive a decent car. Rent in New York is roughly
1,000$ a month assuming you are with at least one roomate I'll say 500$
for you. Right there that's 750$ a month not counting food/gas/student
loans (no way I could guess how much that is per month) and etc.
So I'm guessing you make roughly 400$ a week, or 10$ an hour assuming
full time. 850$ a month is what you would roughly have left over after
rent/Car payments. I'll assume you spend 30$ or so a week on gas. There
goes another 120$ a month. You're down to 730$. Food will roughly cost
you...40-50$ a week assuming you don't eat out every day and don't eat
ramen every day. There's another 200$ a month. You're down to 530$. I'm
not sure if you have to pat utilities or if it's included so I won't
guess.
Now smart people put roughly 50$-100$ a week away into a Savings
account "just in case" your car breaks down, the TV explodes/etc. That
leaves you with roughly 130$ a month extra. Now assuming your student
loan wasn't huge I'm going to guess you probably pay around 100 a
month, at least, for it.
Now remember this is a rough estimate since you said you make little
and have all the bills. This doesn't even put into thought if you
smoke, drink, go out for fun, or anything.
Even if you do wind up having 100-200$ a month extra a month, it's sure
better to use that on something important like dating or going out once
in a while, I'm going to assume you don't play every moment you're home.
I have to be somewhat close to the bills/how much you make because I am
roughly doing the same right now. Right now the economy doesn't allow
spending money on things like computers unless you make a decent amount
of money, which most people who play WoW or AoC (I'd say 16-24) will be
making roughly 400-600$ a week on average.
month, assuming you drive a decent car. Rent in New York is roughly
1,000$ a month assuming you are with at least one roomate I'll say 500$
for you. Right there that's 750$ a month not counting food/gas/student
loans (no way I could guess how much that is per month) and etc.
So I'm guessing you make roughly 400$ a week, or 10$ an hour assuming
full time. 850$ a month is what you would roughly have left over after
rent/Car payments. I'll assume you spend 30$ or so a week on gas. There
goes another 120$ a month. You're down to 730$. Food will roughly cost
you...40-50$ a week assuming you don't eat out every day and don't eat
ramen every day. There's another 200$ a month. You're down to 530$. I'm
not sure if you have to pat utilities or if it's included so I won't
guess.
Now smart people put roughly 50$-100$ a week away into a Savings
account "just in case" your car breaks down, the TV explodes/etc. That
leaves you with roughly 130$ a month extra. Now assuming your student
loan wasn't huge I'm going to guess you probably pay around 100 a
month, at least, for it.
Now remember this is a rough estimate since you said you make little
and have all the bills. This doesn't even put into thought if you
smoke, drink, go out for fun, or anything.
Even if you do wind up having 100-200$ a month extra a month, it's sure
better to use that on something important like dating or going out once
in a while, I'm going to assume you don't play every moment you're home.
I have to be somewhat close to the bills/how much you make because I am
roughly doing the same right now. Right now the economy doesn't allow
spending money on things like computers unless you make a decent amount
of money, which most people who play WoW or AoC (I'd say 16-24) will be
making roughly 400-600$ a week on average.
Malcolm Jun 20, 2008 at 11:06 am
+1 votes
Wow, that's quite the laundry list of wild assumptions, many of which are unfortunately incorrect, starting with the first. The fact of the matter is I don't make a lot of money and can still afford both the things that I need and a reasonable amount of the things that I want. I'm sorry you can't. L2manageyourfinances better? It's not the economy's fault.
Kaex Jun 20, 2008 at 3:26 pm
+1 votes
Then please tell me how much you pay for rent, how much you pay for a car per month. I make 400$ per week working part-time while in college. I have an Acura RSX-S which I pay 250$ a month for. I pay 400 a month for rent. 200 a month for car insurance. 40-50$ a week for food. That is my expenses. That's 1,050$ a month in expenses. Leaving me with 550 a month left over. 100$ a week goes to the bank on average (which most smart people do, gotta love 8 grand in the bank at 20 and it's all MY money.) That leaves me with 150$ a month. I'd much rather spend it on going out than a new computer.
Sorry, I guess you are a nerd that doesn't go out. Also I doubt my assumptions aren't far off because the average college grade makes 20-30 grand a year, aka 400-600 a week. I also live in New Jersey so I know how much the cost of living is in New York. It's ok though I can't wait to hear your made up figures if you do post them.
Oh and before you call bs on 400$ a week part time, work as a Mason for 4 years. 22$ an hour with the guy I work with, which is 480 a week, roughly 80$ for taxes a week. I know my stuff.
Sorry, I guess you are a nerd that doesn't go out. Also I doubt my assumptions aren't far off because the average college grade makes 20-30 grand a year, aka 400-600 a week. I also live in New Jersey so I know how much the cost of living is in New York. It's ok though I can't wait to hear your made up figures if you do post them.
Oh and before you call bs on 400$ a week part time, work as a Mason for 4 years. 22$ an hour with the guy I work with, which is 480 a week, roughly 80$ for taxes a week. I know my stuff.
Grillsaus Jun 16, 2008 at 6:47 pm
+0 votes
Processor:
Hard Drive: 75gig raptor 10k rpm
Video Card: Radeon X1950xtx
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+, MMX, 3DNow ~2.4GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAMHard Drive: 75gig raptor 10k rpm
Video Card: Radeon X1950xtx
Sound Card: SB X-Fi Audio [8400]
Moust of my comps components is out of date by yrs, but still i manage to run AoC on max with shades off at prox 30fps.
too bad the game sux
Moust of my comps components is out of date by yrs, but still i manage to run AoC on max with shades off at prox 30fps.
too bad the game sux
Kaex Jun 16, 2008 at 10:00 pm
+1 votes
See, the problem is a lot of people need to completely re-build a computer to run AoC because they still have AGP mobos/single core processors/etc. Noone wants to spend 800$+ when their system runs what they are using it for fine.
Godsmak Jun 17, 2008 at 10:48 am
+1 votes
If all you want to run is WoW and play all of the new games on low settings then thats your choice.
I enjoy have a blazing fast computer that can play anything I want on the highest. **** I figured out how to 2 box AoC
I enjoy have a blazing fast computer that can play anything I want on the highest. **** I figured out how to 2 box AoC
Opet Jun 17, 2008 at 4:48 pm
+2 votes
My PC is 18 months old and cost 600 pounds to build and ran AoC fine o.O
Malcolm Jun 20, 2008 at 11:15 am
+1 votes
"See, the problem is a lot of people need to completely re-build a
computer to run AoC because they still have AGP mobos/single core
processors/etc. Noone wants to spend 800$+ when their system runs what
they are using it for fine."
You will only need to re-build a computer if your computer sucked when WoW first came out and you still haven't bothered to upgrade because all you've been using it for is World of Warcraft. And that's the problem. WoW permits players to continue to use outdated machines to play a currently popular title because it doesn't take advantage of ANY of the recent advances in technology. Now that people are desperately seeking to jump ship they have nowhere to go because their old machines can't handle *any* new games (not just AoC).
I can see from dealing with friends in WoW over the past three years that this represents a very large segment of the population, and it likely has a lot to do with why WoW has the staying power that it does--people simply have nowhere else to go. The inevitable truth about technology is that it will continue to change and continue to improve, and that holds especially true for computers. You can't expect your 6-year-old machine to be able to play modern titles. Like any hobby, PC gaming requires a hefty investment of disposable income.
computer to run AoC because they still have AGP mobos/single core
processors/etc. Noone wants to spend 800$+ when their system runs what
they are using it for fine."
You will only need to re-build a computer if your computer sucked when WoW first came out and you still haven't bothered to upgrade because all you've been using it for is World of Warcraft. And that's the problem. WoW permits players to continue to use outdated machines to play a currently popular title because it doesn't take advantage of ANY of the recent advances in technology. Now that people are desperately seeking to jump ship they have nowhere to go because their old machines can't handle *any* new games (not just AoC).
I can see from dealing with friends in WoW over the past three years that this represents a very large segment of the population, and it likely has a lot to do with why WoW has the staying power that it does--people simply have nowhere else to go. The inevitable truth about technology is that it will continue to change and continue to improve, and that holds especially true for computers. You can't expect your 6-year-old machine to be able to play modern titles. Like any hobby, PC gaming requires a hefty investment of disposable income.
Masta Jun 17, 2008 at 7:54 pm
+2 votes
My comp is 2½-3 years old, X2 4200+, 2 gig DDR400 RAM, a couple old SATA2 harddrives.. only thing that is relatively new at 7ish months is the geforce 8800gt, which is so cheap now a days that it's almost free, so I call BS on your BS. Game runs fine at high settings on this rig.
Uber new rig needed. Not at all. In fact I'll go right out and build you a PC at like 500$ that'll run this game any day of the week.
Uber new rig needed. Not at all. In fact I'll go right out and build you a PC at like 500$ that'll run this game any day of the week.
Kaex Jun 18, 2008 at 10:34 am
+1 votes
Would you like a pat on the back or a cupcake? I'm sure you are feeling some sense of accomplishment.
J Benji Jun 18, 2008 at 11:27 am
+1 votes
Most games thesedays require a decent comp. If the only game you run on your system is WoW, you shouldn't call yourself a gamer.
Personally, my 10 month old comp, runs AoC (and everything else I play) at max specs with no lag. I enjoy gaming, and it makes sense to put money into something I enjoy.
If you're happy just sitting in a corner with WoW, go ahead and enjoy yourself, just remember you are a casual gamer.
Thats another thing about alot of WoW player I meet, they think they are pro gamers simply because they broke x rating or beat y boss in WoW, yet when a new game comes out, insted of being open and trying it to see if they enjoy it, they remain closed minded and either not buy the game and slag it off whenver they can (with added claims that they purchased it and hated it) or they actually DID buy it, but went in with a negative attitude.
Buy the games and try them out. If the majority of people aren't playing it, who cares! If you're having fun, its money well spent, if you aren't, move along. If you honestly cannot afford to buy all these new games when they are released, go get yourself a job before becoming a self proclaimed expert on all things gaming.
Personally, my 10 month old comp, runs AoC (and everything else I play) at max specs with no lag. I enjoy gaming, and it makes sense to put money into something I enjoy.
If you're happy just sitting in a corner with WoW, go ahead and enjoy yourself, just remember you are a casual gamer.
Thats another thing about alot of WoW player I meet, they think they are pro gamers simply because they broke x rating or beat y boss in WoW, yet when a new game comes out, insted of being open and trying it to see if they enjoy it, they remain closed minded and either not buy the game and slag it off whenver they can (with added claims that they purchased it and hated it) or they actually DID buy it, but went in with a negative attitude.
Buy the games and try them out. If the majority of people aren't playing it, who cares! If you're having fun, its money well spent, if you aren't, move along. If you honestly cannot afford to buy all these new games when they are released, go get yourself a job before becoming a self proclaimed expert on all things gaming.
Kaex Jun 18, 2008 at 5:21 pm
+1 votes
If the only game you run on your system is WoW, you shouldn't call yourself a gamer.
So I don't play AoC, so I'm not a gamer. Ok.
If you're happy just sitting in a corner with WoW, go ahead and enjoy yourself, just remember you are a casual gamer.
If you're happy just sitting in a corner with AoC, go ahead and enjoy yourself, just remember you are a casual gamer. See what I did there?
And WoW is the ONLY game I play or have ever played. Yup.
So I don't play AoC, so I'm not a gamer. Ok.
If you're happy just sitting in a corner with WoW, go ahead and enjoy yourself, just remember you are a casual gamer.
If you're happy just sitting in a corner with AoC, go ahead and enjoy yourself, just remember you are a casual gamer. See what I did there?
And WoW is the ONLY game I play or have ever played. Yup.
Masta Jun 18, 2008 at 2:37 pm
+1 votes
No, I would however like it if you ever posted anything that made sense, was based in fact, was based on personal experience or in general wasn't just crap
Did that do it for you?
briyan Jun 18, 2008 at 5:01 pm
+1 votes
Cupcakes abound on my blog header image! Pick your favorite variety!
Kyle P. Jun 16, 2008 at 2:37 pm
+4 votes
Did you know that 66.73% of charts and statistics are made up on the spot?
Source or it didn't happen.
Source or it didn't happen.
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 2:45 pm
-1 votes
Kyle, you know as well as I do that sources are not as important as the FACTS! This is not Law & Order, we don't allow the guilty defendant to go free because the video of his crime was obtained illegally.
Kyle P. Jun 16, 2008 at 2:49 pm
+3 votes
So I can safely assume your words can be taken on the same level as say; campaign promises during the presidential election?
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 2:50 pm
-2 votes
Yes sir. If you want an explanation, you'll have to wait a year, but you'll see I was telling the truth 100%. I have to protect the identities of my operatives if I want to continue getting inside information to report to my loyal readers.
Triadar Jun 16, 2008 at 5:40 pm
+4 votes
No, your graphs are bull****. I don't care about AoC or WoW, but making up statistics is so fu.cking gay.
anduz Jun 17, 2008 at 6:29 pm
+2 votes
"Kyle, you know as well as I do that sources are not as important as the
FACTS! This is not Law & Order, we don't allow the guilty
defendant to go free because the video of his crime was obtained
illegally."
You seem to be forgetting that sources are the foundation of facts, whether you do the research yourself or take base in the research of others oyu have nothing without the soruces and groundwork.
FACTS! This is not Law & Order, we don't allow the guilty
defendant to go free because the video of his crime was obtained
illegally."
You seem to be forgetting that sources are the foundation of facts, whether you do the research yourself or take base in the research of others oyu have nothing without the soruces and groundwork.
tokesh Jun 16, 2008 at 2:43 pm
+5 votes
can we get a source?
70,000 active accounts seems really low.
70,000 active accounts seems really low.
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 2:46 pm
-3 votes
If you have the game, simply log on yourself to verify. The game world is a ghost town. Server consolidations are coming soon.
tokesh Jun 16, 2008 at 2:52 pm
+1 votes
i cancelled my account a couple weeks ago, but from what i can remember it was far from being a ghost town.
unless things have drastically changed in the last 2 weeks, numbers still seem off.
who knows though!
unless things have drastically changed in the last 2 weeks, numbers still seem off.
who knows though!
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 3:01 pm
-2 votes
A couple weeks ago, the game had just been released... it's been out for close to one month now. The problem is that a bunch of people tried it out, didn't like it, and stopped playing. They may have hesitated to quit completely for a couple weeks because they wanted to discover something fun, but they're leaving in droves now.
Bromsius Jun 16, 2008 at 3:02 pm
+1 votes
I saw an article on The Guardian website (a British newspaper) saying that 1 million copies of the game had been sold. But they were saying, like you, that time will tell whether people stay on after the free month!
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 3:04 pm
-2 votes
Yeap, that's the kicker. Anybody can pick up a game in a store and go, "ooh shiny graphics, I like to kill monsters" but when you develop an MMO, that's not good enough. You have to pay to run servers and develop new content, so you need people to buy a subscription. That's where AoC has been a complete failure.
Vir Jun 16, 2008 at 3:24 pm
-1 votes
I saw an article on The Guardian website (a British newspaper) saying that 1 million copies of the game had been sold. But they were saying, like you, that time will tell whether people stay on after the free month!
I've got 3 months payed for and a whole guild there waiting for me, and I'm still not playing it.
Godsmak Jun 16, 2008 at 3:49 pm
+2 votes
Wrong on the ghost town part, as I play regularly, you don't.
What you are correct about is that a number of people won't be subscribing to this game.
Most people are used to WoW's scrubby graphics, scrubby and easy-going requirements for there NeoGeo system and most people don't have perseverance to move on after having their head cut-off in a city they thought was safe.
What you are correct about is that a number of people won't be subscribing to this game.
Most people are used to WoW's scrubby graphics, scrubby and easy-going requirements for there NeoGeo system and most people don't have perseverance to move on after having their head cut-off in a city they thought was safe.
Dyzz Jun 16, 2008 at 4:06 pm
-1 votes
Im 100% sure you never graduated high school and cant put together a solid thought to save your life. "OMG PEOPLE ARE BASHING A GAME I PLAY! I MUST COMEBACK AT THEM WITH THE YOU GUYS ARE ******* COMMENTS! OMG WIN!" That type of mentality just makes you look like a giant flaming dumbass.
I wont respond to you anymore, ill just let you look like a giant ******* moron from now on.
People are leaving AoC because it sucks, theres no itemization, no end game content both pve and pvp and even the populated servers are starting to become ghost towns. I havent logged to play in a week. The game is just not good enough for me to want to log in and play.
*I bet money godsmak replies with some "GB2WOW" comment*
I wont respond to you anymore, ill just let you look like a giant ******* moron from now on.
People are leaving AoC because it sucks, theres no itemization, no end game content both pve and pvp and even the populated servers are starting to become ghost towns. I havent logged to play in a week. The game is just not good enough for me to want to log in and play.
*I bet money godsmak replies with some "GB2WOW" comment*
Fat Robot Jun 16, 2008 at 4:49 pm
+0 votes
"Sucks"
Debatable to some people (apparently 70k). I like the combos.
"Bad itemization"
Perk for some. Get to 80 and have minimal time before you can pvp successfully.
"Bad end game"
Yep. I could care less about the PvE end (a lot of players like PvE though). My fanboy excuse for the pvp side will be... oh, lets go with: I'd rather them spend the time balancing classes before putting things at stake.
"Ghost town"
Yep, all the people on my friends list in AoC are getting days piled up in their last login column. Lame *****!
However, for the type of player that I am, WoW is a chore. Probably a better game, but still a chore. I agree with Vir, more server types. World FFA PvP TR set up would be pretty neat.
Debatable to some people (apparently 70k). I like the combos.
"Bad itemization"
Perk for some. Get to 80 and have minimal time before you can pvp successfully.
"Bad end game"
Yep. I could care less about the PvE end (a lot of players like PvE though). My fanboy excuse for the pvp side will be... oh, lets go with: I'd rather them spend the time balancing classes before putting things at stake.
"Ghost town"
Yep, all the people on my friends list in AoC are getting days piled up in their last login column. Lame *****!
However, for the type of player that I am, WoW is a chore. Probably a better game, but still a chore. I agree with Vir, more server types. World FFA PvP TR set up would be pretty neat.
Axizu Jun 16, 2008 at 6:16 pm
+1 votes
I was playing 10 minutes ago and it's far from a ghost town, all because your game sucks and you're having a little kiddy tantrum cause you can't afford a computer that can run AoC doesn't mean you need to go on the internet and spread lies.
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 6:24 pm
-1 votes
Did you cancel your sub or just stop playing temporarily to read this blog?
Axizu Jun 16, 2008 at 6:28 pm
+1 votes
Temporarily, as in i got to go somewhere soon and i'll be back on it later today. Why would I cancel my sub? The game is awesome.
Fated Jun 16, 2008 at 7:15 pm
+0 votes
Where does he ever state that he doesn't have a computer that is capable of running the game? If this was even true, why would he pay money to buy a new computer just to play a game he doesn't like?
Reading comprehension at its best.
P.S. You have a lot of rage man. Also, shouldn't you be happy that all of these people you're calling ******* and retards aren't playing AoC?
Reading comprehension at its best.
P.S. You have a lot of rage man. Also, shouldn't you be happy that all of these people you're calling ******* and retards aren't playing AoC?
DKA Jun 17, 2008 at 5:32 pm
+1 votes
game world isn't a ghost town, you probably went Nightmode... in the first city you can go nightmode and complete some missions alone :P
also the areas are instanced, so ie. while you may only see 30 players in a city there can be 30 instances of each city with 30 players in each, therefor giving 900 players in a city. you can change instance by yourself using a button at the minimap, and grouped people automatically enter the same instance...
next time you want to make a blog with "facts" based on your secret press release insider operative source you should try the game beyond level 5. first 0-5 levels are solo-instanced, and then you will meet people
remember funcom had to open more servers due to the load, and the game is still sold out many places to the such huge demand... using your logic, i'm gonna go right ahead and call WoW a ghost town
also the areas are instanced, so ie. while you may only see 30 players in a city there can be 30 instances of each city with 30 players in each, therefor giving 900 players in a city. you can change instance by yourself using a button at the minimap, and grouped people automatically enter the same instance...
next time you want to make a blog with "facts" based on your secret press release insider operative source you should try the game beyond level 5. first 0-5 levels are solo-instanced, and then you will meet people
remember funcom had to open more servers due to the load, and the game is still sold out many places to the such huge demand... using your logic, i'm gonna go right ahead and call WoW a ghost town
Masta Jun 17, 2008 at 7:59 pm
+2 votes
Maybe it's YOU who needs to log on? Obviously you never have. Are you sure you got the one that is for the right region? Maybe you got the EU version and was trying to log on in US times... wouldn't seem below your intellectual status to do so :p
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 2:57 pm
-4 votes
No sir. It's not trolling when you only report the facts. Pure trolling would be an article called "Age of Conan is actually good".
See here (previously featured on the front page of GameRiot, LOL):
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Big-Boys-make-Big-Boy-noise/Age-of-Conan-is-actually-good/
See here (previously featured on the front page of GameRiot, LOL):
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Big-Boys-make-Big-Boy-noise/Age-of-Conan-is-actually-good/
Slapnuts Jun 16, 2008 at 5:00 pm
+2 votes
The fact is this article is pure baseless junk. Sure its well written, but at the cost of lying your ass off to achieve it.
I don't even play the game, so I don't have any kind of vested interest it. But you can rest assured that when/if subscriber numbers come out, I would be one of the first to report it.
On top of that you are taking opinions from a hardcore WoW player base and trying to pass them off as mainstream opinion. When in fact, from my surfing and reading for news from all over the web, most opinions on the game from it's users are quite positive.
I don't even play the game, so I don't have any kind of vested interest it. But you can rest assured that when/if subscriber numbers come out, I would be one of the first to report it.
On top of that you are taking opinions from a hardcore WoW player base and trying to pass them off as mainstream opinion. When in fact, from my surfing and reading for news from all over the web, most opinions on the game from it's users are quite positive.
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 5:43 pm
-2 votes
Hey, I resent your implication that I am attempting to voice a collective opinion rather than my own. The sentiments reflected here are strictly mine, and I am most certainly not a hardcore WoW player. I do enjoy a bit of WoW, but I am pretty casual about the way I play it. I've been kinda "meh" on WoW since near the end of 2007, and I would love to give my heart to a fun and compelling new game. Alas, AoC is neither of these things, not even compelling enough to make me want to buy it and try it.
You may think it's only hardcore WoW addicts who are claiming AoC sucks, but I say it's only hardcore anti-WoW contrarians that are claiming anything REMOTELY positive about AoC.
You may think it's only hardcore WoW addicts who are claiming AoC sucks, but I say it's only hardcore anti-WoW contrarians that are claiming anything REMOTELY positive about AoC.
DKA Jun 17, 2008 at 5:43 pm
+2 votes
for someone that haven't bought it and haven't even tried it, you sure do know alot about the interface, the combat, the world, and the graphics.
keep your story straight
i've played WoW since 2005, i've got above 2100 in 2v2 and 3v3 and I can say that both WoW and AoC kicks ass. So how you can say your opinions in this blog is strictly your opinion, then followup with "You may think it's only hardcore WoW addicts who are claiming AoC sucks, but I say it's only hardcore anti-WoW contrarians that are claiming anything REMOTELY positive about AoC." is disturbing, as is your propaganda math
keep your story straight
i've played WoW since 2005, i've got above 2100 in 2v2 and 3v3 and I can say that both WoW and AoC kicks ass. So how you can say your opinions in this blog is strictly your opinion, then followup with "You may think it's only hardcore WoW addicts who are claiming AoC sucks, but I say it's only hardcore anti-WoW contrarians that are claiming anything REMOTELY positive about AoC." is disturbing, as is your propaganda math
Stryider Jun 16, 2008 at 5:50 pm
+2 votes
Well, the game was fun for a little while. I could run it just fine when it wasn't bugging out on me. First I had issues closing the game, then I had issues patching the game, then I had issues playing the game (client freezes and frequent crashes). It wasn't the gameplay that turned me away. I quest WoW a week ago or so and was planning on playing Conan for fun but I literally tried to log in and got a critical error that required a complete reinstall/patching of the client.
Either way though, I agree with Slap that you're just straight making up numbers. That doesn't serve anyone at all. For one who is always trying to post "statistics" about this and that you've completly lost all credibility.
Either way though, I agree with Slap that you're just straight making up numbers. That doesn't serve anyone at all. For one who is always trying to post "statistics" about this and that you've completly lost all credibility.
Lylah Jun 16, 2008 at 2:58 pm
-2 votes
thats right,noone can beat the Collossus of games..Blizzard..
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 3:19 pm
+0 votes
I just wish someone would be a bit more competitive in the MMO genre. I enjoy some of Blizzard's game, but the complete lack of other MMOs has really lead to some stagnation with WoW. I hope somebody steps up at some point so we can have a healthy crop of game from which to choose.
We'll probably have to have another "big one" emerge in a different subgenre (i.e. not an armor and swords and magic fantasy setting) before we make any real progress.
We'll probably have to have another "big one" emerge in a different subgenre (i.e. not an armor and swords and magic fantasy setting) before we make any real progress.
Vir Jun 16, 2008 at 3:06 pm
+0 votes
1, 2 and 4 for me.
Really any mmo that comes out now has to be enjoyable while leveling, otherwise I'm just going back to WoW so I don't have to invest 4-5 days played just to hit level cap.
I do think you can have a pure no-rules PvP environment, but you'd probably have to base the game around that or make a separate server for it.
I'd be pretty happy if WoW added some more server types.
Really any mmo that comes out now has to be enjoyable while leveling, otherwise I'm just going back to WoW so I don't have to invest 4-5 days played just to hit level cap.
I do think you can have a pure no-rules PvP environment, but you'd probably have to base the game around that or make a separate server for it.
I'd be pretty happy if WoW added some more server types.
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 3:12 pm
-2 votes
I agree with you that a no-rules PvP themed game could be more viable if the game is built around that idea from the ground up, but it's still not possible to have it work, in my opinion.
If you truly can do whatever you want in a game, somebody will create order and establish a type of "ruling class" as it were. You essentially shift the control of the game from the developers to the players, and players don't really have an interest in making the game fun for everyone, just themselves. Kinda like the situation in several modern African countries. If you're one of the 50 guys that's good buds with the local warlord, maybe you have some fun. If you're one of the 100,000 people they randomly terrorize, starve, rape, and murder, life sucks.
If you truly can do whatever you want in a game, somebody will create order and establish a type of "ruling class" as it were. You essentially shift the control of the game from the developers to the players, and players don't really have an interest in making the game fun for everyone, just themselves. Kinda like the situation in several modern African countries. If you're one of the 50 guys that's good buds with the local warlord, maybe you have some fun. If you're one of the 100,000 people they randomly terrorize, starve, rape, and murder, life sucks.
Vir Jun 16, 2008 at 3:21 pm
+0 votes
If you truly can do whatever you want in a game, somebody will create order and establish a type of "ruling class" as it were. You essentially shift the control of the game from the developers to the players, and players don't really have an interest in making the game fun for everyone, just themselves. Kinda like the situation in several modern African countries. If you're one of the 50 guys that's good buds with the local warlord, maybe you have some fun. If you're one of the 100,000 people they randomly terrorize, starve, rape, and murder, life sucks.
Yup, but the fun in a gaming environment like that would be breaking up the ruling cartel without being murdered for real. If the devs somehow balance around that sort of thing, it could make for an interesting story line.
When I think about the idea you put forth, what strikes me is it would be a more compelling story-line than anything I can think of in WoW PvP. After all, if you manage to put together your own group who somehow upsets or expels the ruling class...that would be player driven content that is epic beyond any predetermined quest-line.
The only think I can think of that compares to that in WoW was when guilds were pre-determining an honor cap to get people Grand Marshal/High Warlord and lone gunmen would come in and break it just for the hell of it. That was some good drama.
Yup, but the fun in a gaming environment like that would be breaking up the ruling cartel without being murdered for real. If the devs somehow balance around that sort of thing, it could make for an interesting story line.
When I think about the idea you put forth, what strikes me is it would be a more compelling story-line than anything I can think of in WoW PvP. After all, if you manage to put together your own group who somehow upsets or expels the ruling class...that would be player driven content that is epic beyond any predetermined quest-line.
The only think I can think of that compares to that in WoW was when guilds were pre-determining an honor cap to get people Grand Marshal/High Warlord and lone gunmen would come in and break it just for the hell of it. That was some good drama.
Bas Jun 16, 2008 at 4:20 pm
+0 votes
Grand Marshal/High Warlord = worst grind ever
good thing i was drunk for all of it
... Bas
good thing i was drunk for all of it
... Bas
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 4:22 pm
-1 votes
lol Bas did you actually grind to 14? I have to admit I only went to rank 8, and I barely managed that. Too much time imo if you have a full time job, and not worth it even if you don't.
Masta Jun 17, 2008 at 8:02 pm
+2 votes
Hahahah obviously you haven't even played the game! Level 8!? It takes just over 1 HOUR (70 minutes) to get level 10! I'm sure even flipping burgers for a living at burger king you could manage that, couldn't you?
And grind? Do you even know what a grind is?! Seriously now, you do NOT want to go and insult a good grind by calling AoC a grind!
And grind? Do you even know what a grind is?! Seriously now, you do NOT want to go and insult a good grind by calling AoC a grind!
briyan Jun 17, 2008 at 9:50 pm
-1 votes
*whoosh*
Sorry man I was talking about old-school WoW PvP ranks. That's why I was saying "rank" and not "level," and I was responding to the prior reference of Grand Marshal/High Warlord.
Sorry man I was talking about old-school WoW PvP ranks. That's why I was saying "rank" and not "level," and I was responding to the prior reference of Grand Marshal/High Warlord.
Solange Jun 16, 2008 at 3:18 pm
+4 votes
I don't understand why anyone would spend the time to post a pie chart with exact numbers, credited to "a recent press release"... a press release THAT DOESN'T EXIT. Conclusion? "time to say an official "Goodbye" to Age of Conan."
Our official conclusion? WAAAY to much time on your hands
Our official conclusion? WAAAY to much time on your hands
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 3:20 pm
-3 votes
lol thank you for your official conclusion. I am sorry if you bought the game and are frustrated or disappointed, but please don't take out your anger on me!
Godsmak Jun 16, 2008 at 3:53 pm
+2 votes
You seem pretty angry and frustrated you bought the game.
Back to toon town you go.
Back to toon town you go.
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 3:57 pm
-4 votes
Are you kidding me Godsmak? I did not buy this terrible game.
Godsmak Jun 16, 2008 at 4:33 pm
+2 votes
I guess you're just angry, bitter, and pissT your Atari 3600 can only run WoW.
Sux man, sux.
Sux man, sux.
briyan Jun 16, 2008 at 3:37 pm
-1 votes
I know it's not healthy, but I do enjoy the Sausage McMuffin w/Egg from McDonald's. Try one, only available at participating restaurants before 10:30AM. The Sausage and Egg McGriddle is also good but it's pricier and the McMuffin is more "classic" ...

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