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I've start the night off with this disgusting story out of Belleville, Missouri that Xira linked in the forums. Watch the video below first off. Tell me right now that if the roles were reversed that Sharpton, the NAACP and everyone else wouldn't instantly be in Missouri calling this a race hate crime? Police are tentative to go that route and are now backing off such statements. The kids should be expelled and the bus driver should have been fired on the spot after viewing of this video:
In good news today the anti-gun crowd may have a new target to fight against, samurai swords! A John Hopkins student's house was broken in to and being robbed when he went down to see what was going on armed with his samurai sword. The robber lunged at him and the student went all Seven Samurai on his ass nearly severing his hand and a laceration on his upper body. I'll still take the sword over the pen!
 |  Alessandra Ambrosio courtesy of Quacha, thanks for sending it in! |
Things seem to be going quite well for ACORN lately including this latest video which is pro-underage prostitution, pimping, illegal campaign proceeds and murder. ACORN is trying to brush off all of this corruption claiming the videos are edited to make them look bad and their people play along. Yet at the same time they are firing people involved in the controversy... Positive community-based organization or modern day mafia?
Remember my head up on the Superman lawsuit between the creators heirs and Warner Brothers? Word was that WB could be sued by the heirs for a nice sum of money if a new Superman movie wasn't in production by 2011. Word from an MTV interview has the new head of DC Entertainment that a new Superman is not in not in production nor are there any current plans. Now they probably have at least a full year to get things started but that makes me wonder what the hell they are going to do with this icon.
Sharto Copley and Jessica Biel may be joining the cast of the upcoming A-Team movie that Rampage Jackson is rumored to be in as well. Copley was the star of District 9 and is in negotiations to play Murdoch. Biel is going to play Faceman's former lover and clearly the T&A of the film. +1 for both of these casting ideas.
And I realize this is ultra-fattening, but I'll be damned if this new stuffed-crust pan pizza from Pizza Hut doesn't sound amazing. Calorie wise, two slices would be pushing it but damn it looks good.
The best kind of justice, the easy kind:
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Daramanz Sep 16, 2009 at 7:57 am
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first, lulz, then again I've been up since 2 being sick. I agree with what you said about the kid being beat up on the bus. Love the video of the morons blowing themselves up.
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glorystack Sep 16, 2009 at 8:44 am
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Honestly I never knew there were people like that. People who are being beaten that badly to not even fight back at all. It's not like he was knocked out, the other kid was just going at him repeatedly, he was just taking haymakers to the face.
Now to call this racially motivated would be premature. Wholly possible, but nothing from that video suggests as much. To me it just seems like normal HS bull****. The white kid clearly has some issues to be that meek. If my memory of HS is accurate, teenagers prey on the weak to make themselves feel better.
What I think that video shows more about bystanders than anything else. Nobody stepped up for the weak until the very end.
Now to call this racially motivated would be premature. Wholly possible, but nothing from that video suggests as much. To me it just seems like normal HS bull****. The white kid clearly has some issues to be that meek. If my memory of HS is accurate, teenagers prey on the weak to make themselves feel better.
What I think that video shows more about bystanders than anything else. Nobody stepped up for the weak until the very end.
Iori Sep 16, 2009 at 10:06 am
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glorystack said
Honestly I never knew there were people like that. People who are being beaten that badly to not even fight back at all. It's not like he was knocked out, the other kid was just going at him repeatedly, he was just taking haymakers to the face.
Now to call this racially motivated would be premature. Wholly possible, but nothing from that video suggests as much. To me it just seems like normal HS bull****. The white kid clearly has some issues to be that meek. If my memory of HS is accurate, teenagers prey on the weak to make themselves feel better.
What I think that video shows more about bystanders than anything else. Nobody stepped up for the weak until the very end.
Now to call this racially motivated would be premature. Wholly possible, but nothing from that video suggests as much. To me it just seems like normal HS bull****. The white kid clearly has some issues to be that meek. If my memory of HS is accurate, teenagers prey on the weak to make themselves feel better.
What I think that video shows more about bystanders than anything else. Nobody stepped up for the weak until the very end.
Slapnuts Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 am
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I didn't know racial slurs were required to to make something racially motivated, thanks for filling me in. Considering you can't really hear what is being said anyhow I don't see how that is concrete evidence.
The support for the Jenna 6 thugs is clear evidence towards just how "different" things are across racial lines.
Remember Louis Gates? Oh how quick everyone was to judge in that regard and come out in support.
There is a pattern here, ignoring the difference would just be silly.
The support for the Jenna 6 thugs is clear evidence towards just how "different" things are across racial lines.
Remember Louis Gates? Oh how quick everyone was to judge in that regard and come out in support.
There is a pattern here, ignoring the difference would just be silly.
Runnin Sep 16, 2009 at 11:45 am
+1 votes
Do you really want to stoop to Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton levels though? It's better for someone to step up and ignore race in these kinds of situations so that we don't breed that brand of idiots to begin with.
glorystack Sep 16, 2009 at 12:49 pm
+1 votes
Ur just plain ignorant slapnuts. Do you even know the facts behind the Jena 6? I'll give you time to Wikipedia it.
Slapnuts Sep 16, 2009 at 4:21 pm
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Of course, you think I read the news to just piss you guys off?
The kid had nothing to do with any of the incidents at the school and was basically an innocent bystander.
The kid had nothing to do with any of the incidents at the school and was basically an innocent bystander.
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 5:32 pm
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Slapnuts said
Of course, you think I read the news to just piss you guys off?
The kid had nothing to do with any of the incidents at the school and was basically an innocent bystander.
The kid had nothing to do with any of the incidents at the school and was basically an innocent bystander.
Slapnuts Sep 16, 2009 at 5:41 pm
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No one has ever been banned for the political views, hate to break it to you, and nor will they ever unless it somehow involves excessive rule breaking elsewhere which would merely be a coincidence.
And please take note of the word "just".
And please take note of the word "just".
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 6:08 pm
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I don't think he would've been kicked off due to political views outright, more than after so long for how much he spams it. You, Austin, Rage, etc. eventually getting really fed up with it. I think you're all most likely to let it slide when you have the same views.
I'd swear by you posting your political news to piss of your left readers tho.
I'd swear by you posting your political news to piss of your left readers tho.
Slapnuts Sep 16, 2009 at 6:14 pm
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Considering I am the only right/libertarian'ish member of the staff you may be exaggerating a bit. Spam and being vocal about your opinion in the right context are two different things. If Vir posts 5 blogs a day on raging right-wing views, that is borderline spam. Having productive, sometimes not so much, arguments and debates with fellow users in forums or comments hardly what I would call spam.
And I post political news to stir discussion. I don't do it to see flame wars or stupid name calling but actual productive responses that make people think. They may be the minority but they do happen from time to time and I find that well worth it.
And I post political news to stir discussion. I don't do it to see flame wars or stupid name calling but actual productive responses that make people think. They may be the minority but they do happen from time to time and I find that well worth it.
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 6:22 pm
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Hmm i thought Austin was a big right wing guy, based more on gun rights. I guess i assumed too much. But if you factor Vir's comments, forum posts, and blogs throughout with hypothetically very far left arguing constantly, i'm just not sure you guys would be so cool with that like you are with his right beliefs now, that tend to line up with yours.
Yeah well it just seemed to me you keep posting right leaning political news on your blogs knowing a lot of people on the left that read your blogs criticize you for your political news slants. But it just comes across like it reinforces you to do it more, the more they complain.
Yeah well it just seemed to me you keep posting right leaning political news on your blogs knowing a lot of people on the left that read your blogs criticize you for your political news slants. But it just comes across like it reinforces you to do it more, the more they complain.
Slapnuts Sep 16, 2009 at 6:51 pm
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Would I honestly post content just to have myself criticized? Clearly I must get something from it as whether this gets two views or five thousand has little bearing on me being here. The simple and honest answer is that I enjoy the debate and discussions when it stays in the realm of intellectual discussion.
And sure, sometimes the flaming can be semi-entertaining but I definitely prefer the former.
And sure, sometimes the flaming can be semi-entertaining but I definitely prefer the former.
glorystack Sep 16, 2009 at 5:49 pm
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The reason it became a national media story was because of the charges that were brought against the boys. Attempted murder for a schoolyard beatdown. They were grossly overcharged for their crimes because they were black. Once the media caught wind, then facts started coming out about the effigy and such.
tamon Sep 16, 2009 at 4:19 pm
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How is there anything racially motivated about that video? There's 2 kids fighting each other for reasons we don't know, they just happen to be different races. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are race baiters they profit politically and socially by speaking out on divisive race issues; personally I despise them because they do more to harm their cause than to help it.
The Louis Gates issue happens across this country everyday; He just happened to be a well connected and well known person so his story got a lot of people interested. Then Al Sharpton and his crew got involved in it and made it more about race than it should have been. It was more about the abuse of police power than racism; How would u feel if you were arrested in your own home for mouthing off to a police officer who should not have been there in the first place?
The Louis Gates issue happens across this country everyday; He just happened to be a well connected and well known person so his story got a lot of people interested. Then Al Sharpton and his crew got involved in it and made it more about race than it should have been. It was more about the abuse of police power than racism; How would u feel if you were arrested in your own home for mouthing off to a police officer who should not have been there in the first place?
Ocedic Sep 16, 2009 at 9:30 pm
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Slapnuts said
I didn't know racial slurs were required to to make something racially motivated, thanks for filling me in. Considering you can't really hear what is being said anyhow I don't see how that is concrete evidence.
The support for the Jenna 6 thugs is clear evidence towards just how "different" things are across racial lines.
Remember Louis Gates? Oh how quick everyone was to judge in that regard and come out in support.
There is a pattern here, ignoring the difference would just be silly.
The support for the Jenna 6 thugs is clear evidence towards just how "different" things are across racial lines.
Remember Louis Gates? Oh how quick everyone was to judge in that regard and come out in support.
There is a pattern here, ignoring the difference would just be silly.
It's ironic that you point out what Al Sharpton would do if the roles were reversed because in that very same hypothetical situation you'd be rolling your eyes at the race card, like you did with professor whatshisface. You're basically fighting fire with fire except you have a degree of self righteousness that would put Sharpton to shame.
Oh, and objectively there's nothing to indicate a hate crime in that video. I see plenty of whites cheering on the attack. Like a previous poster said, typical HS **** that you wouldn't even care about if the black kids were white.
Vir Sep 16, 2009 at 10:30 am
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Iori said
Pretty much. I didn't hear the aggressor making racial slurs towards the assaulted. I just saw typical high school ****. Course my mind is thinking what is it going to take for America to be in a mature post-racial state where a White kid can beat up a black kid or vice versa without it being instantly caricatured as racism. I like to think that will happen once America starts to sit down and really discuss the issues of race past, present and future. Course with the way things are becoming in this country, I doubt that will happen any time soon.
Iori Sep 16, 2009 at 10:41 am
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Vir said
Every time I try to talk about race with you, you run away like a little girl. You don't want to talk about race, you want to lecture people about your beliefs when it comes to race. There is a big difference. Keep repeating it though.
As far as there being a pattern, there is patterns on both sides of the fence to be honest. Its not just a one sided problem.
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 11:53 am
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Black people abuse their slavery past to guilt trip double standards. Theres lots of black people who are racist against whites. Especially in highly concentrated black areas. Its pretty obvious if you went to that type of school.
On the other hand half of the Republican party is racist, under the guise of political issues.
It is what it is. Sitting down and discussing it accomplishes nothing. It doesn't change anyones opinions. Obama having the sit down with the cop, professor, and having a beer did absolutely nothing for race in America, and if anything that incident showed how black people can overreact to what they perceive as racism, when its not.
On the other hand half of the Republican party is racist, under the guise of political issues.
It is what it is. Sitting down and discussing it accomplishes nothing. It doesn't change anyones opinions. Obama having the sit down with the cop, professor, and having a beer did absolutely nothing for race in America, and if anything that incident showed how black people can overreact to what they perceive as racism, when its not.
Iori Sep 16, 2009 at 12:52 pm
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Smokeee said
Black people abuse their slavery past to guilt trip double standards. Theres lots of black people who are racist against whites. Especially in highly concentrated black areas. Its pretty obvious if you went to that type of school.
On the other hand half of the Republican party is racist, under the guise of political issues.
It is what it is. Sitting down and discussing it accomplishes nothing. It doesn't change anyones opinions. Obama having the sit down with the cop, professor, and having a beer did absolutely nothing for race in America, and if anything that incident showed how black people can overreact to what they perceive as racism, when its not.
On the other hand half of the Republican party is racist, under the guise of political issues.
It is what it is. Sitting down and discussing it accomplishes nothing. It doesn't change anyones opinions. Obama having the sit down with the cop, professor, and having a beer did absolutely nothing for race in America, and if anything that incident showed how black people can overreact to what they perceive as racism, when its not.
Bwozz Sep 16, 2009 at 2:00 pm
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Iori said
I went to a predominately white school in a conservative middle class neighborhood. My views are influenced by my life experiences and social interactions.
school with literally a 1/3; 1/3; 1/3 population of whites blacks and
mexicans. It was commonplace for black people to walk around saying "I
hate white people" etc. and try and pick on white people just like
Quickshot MLx said, to get some rep... I remember walking through a
corridor where some huge black dude was waiting with his friends for
white people to walk by acting like they were about to punch you when
you walked by and laughed and ridiculed you when you walked away from
an outnumbered fight (those ******* wouldn't do **** 1 on 1).
Black people would always say **** like "I would never lose a fight to a white dude" anyone remember the "I would never let a white boy beat me!" by
Bernard Hopkins (who got his ass kicked) and Floyd Mayweather saying
the UFC was created by white people cause white people get dominated in
boxing (Anderson Silva is the best UFC figher)... and no one gave a
**** cause white people are raised to feel sorry for minorities for
what other white people did hundreds of years ago... Because its OK to
hate white people for their skin color (the only thing linking most
white people to racist acts) in this stupid ****** up culture.
And no, Mexican people never did **** like this in my HS, I blame it on
the Black Leaders in our country, too much paranoia and craziness
coming from them. You'll never see someone like Al Sharpton tackle an
issue like this cause he only cares about pushing the Black agenda, not
racial equality. I'm not saying that all black people are racist I'm
saying they are JUST as racist (if not more, this culture accepts black
racism) and I know 100% that if the roles were reversed in this bus
incident the country would go craaazy. But when it happens to white
people we justify the Black kids by saying we deserve it or the
condition they were in (again whites generations ago are responsible
for this) is to blame. Huge reverse racism in this country man.
That's my experience and I didn't even grow up in the Inner city (mine
was closer to the suburbs) where its 10x worse, (one of my friends
went to an all black HS were he was forced to drop out soph. year cause
he was seriously afraid for his life) and it has formed my ideas on
race heavily. You lived in a white
neighborhood and went to a white HS and are lecturing people on race?
Sounds like someone afflicted with the white man's burden. And
obviously all of this **** happens to black people too, and even worse
things too, but at least we (this culture) don't justify the whites.
Iori Sep 16, 2009 at 1:34 pm
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Smokeee said
Black people abuse their slavery past to guilt trip double standards. Theres lots of black people who are racist against whites. Especially in highly concentrated black areas. Its pretty obvious if you went to that type of school.
On the other hand half of the Republican party is racist, under the guise of political issues.
It is what it is. Sitting down and discussing it accomplishes nothing. It doesn't change anyones opinions. Obama having the sit down with the cop, professor, and having a beer did absolutely nothing for race in America, and if anything that incident showed how black people can overreact to what they perceive as racism, when its not.
On the other hand half of the Republican party is racist, under the guise of political issues.
It is what it is. Sitting down and discussing it accomplishes nothing. It doesn't change anyones opinions. Obama having the sit down with the cop, professor, and having a beer did absolutely nothing for race in America, and if anything that incident showed how black people can overreact to what they perceive as racism, when its not.
What would make you think Black people aren't able to recognize racism?
Secondly, do you think White people have a better gauge of what is perceived as racist?
Thirdly, Do you think White people would recognize something as racism if it happened in front of them and if so do you think they would do something to counteract it or would they try to paint the situation as a isolated incidence?
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 2:12 pm
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Iori said
Question out of curiosity. I am going assume you are white. But seriously Question.
What would make you think Black people aren't able to recognize racism?
Secondly, do you think White people have a better gauge of what is perceived as racist?
Thirdly, Do you think White people would recognize something as racism if it happened in front of them and if so do you think they would do something to counteract it or would they try to paint the situation as a isolated incidence?
What would make you think Black people aren't able to recognize racism?
Secondly, do you think White people have a better gauge of what is perceived as racist?
Thirdly, Do you think White people would recognize something as racism if it happened in front of them and if so do you think they would do something to counteract it or would they try to paint the situation as a isolated incidence?
I'm not sure where you got that i said black people aren't able to recognize racism. They are probably the most conscious of racism to a fault. They oftentimes perceive things as being racist when it would've been the same for anyone else in the same situation regardless of skin color. Its like traffic pullovers, black people swear the cop being as ******* to them is racist when they are ******** to everyone.
I think white people tend to allow and accept the double standards in general. Theres a big difference between the very politically correct white liberals and the old conservative white people in our country that are borderline racists. Its hard to generalize them all as one since they can come from such different backgrounds. But to answer your question i do and don't think white people have a better gauge of perceiving racism. They at least don't have the paranoia levels of racism black people do and always assume. But there are also lot of white people in our country that are racists.
Its very difficult to answer these in terms of generalities since its obviously based on the individual. But by and large i'd say white people would paint it as an isolated incident, or just coincidence, more than automatically assuming its racism. But more than anything depends on the incident we're talking about here.
There are just some mentalities in black communities that aren't often discussed but are true. Like how many of them fear the cops more than they do drug dealers and pimps in their neighborhoods, and won't cooperate with authorities to lock them up. Being a white cop in a black neighborhood isn't exactly safe even for a cop, and even paramedics, when they are riled up from some racial incident. LA riots and what happened to Reginal Denny is a good example of how black concentrated communities have reverse racist tendencies. But man, i feel sorry for that introverted white kid thats easy to pick on going to a predominantly black school. I've seen some of that firsthand, and it is definitely a racist perception against 'white boys' more than anyone that exists.
Iori Sep 16, 2009 at 4:34 pm
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Smokeee said
I'm asian.
I'm not sure where you got that i said black people aren't able to recognize racism. They are probably the most conscious of racism to a fault. They oftentimes perceive things as being racist when it would've been the same for anyone else in the same situation regardless of skin color. Its like traffic pullovers, black people swear the cop being as ******* to them is racist when they are ******** to everyone.
I think white people tend to allow and accept the double standards in general. Theres a big difference between the very politically correct white liberals and the old conservative white people in our country that are borderline racists. Its hard to generalize them all as one since they can come from such different backgrounds. But to answer your question i do and don't think white people have a better gauge of perceiving racism. They at least don't have the paranoia levels of racism black people do and always assume. But there are also lot of white people in our country that are racists.
Its very difficult to answer these in terms of generalities since its obviously based on the individual. But by and large i'd say white people would paint it as an isolated incident, or just coincidence, more than automatically assuming its racism. But more than anything depends on the incident we're talking about here.
There are just some mentalities in black communities that aren't often discussed but are true. Like how many of them fear the cops more than they do drug dealers and pimps in their neighborhoods, and won't cooperate with authorities to lock them up. Being a white cop in a black neighborhood isn't exactly safe even for a cop, and even paramedics, when they are riled up from some racial incident. LA riots and what happened to Reginal Denny is a good example of how black concentrated communities have reverse racist tendencies. But man, i feel sorry for that introverted white kid thats easy to pick on going to a predominantly black school. I've seen some of that firsthand, and it is definitely a racist perception against 'white boys' more than anyone that exists.
I'm not sure where you got that i said black people aren't able to recognize racism. They are probably the most conscious of racism to a fault. They oftentimes perceive things as being racist when it would've been the same for anyone else in the same situation regardless of skin color. Its like traffic pullovers, black people swear the cop being as ******* to them is racist when they are ******** to everyone.
I think white people tend to allow and accept the double standards in general. Theres a big difference between the very politically correct white liberals and the old conservative white people in our country that are borderline racists. Its hard to generalize them all as one since they can come from such different backgrounds. But to answer your question i do and don't think white people have a better gauge of perceiving racism. They at least don't have the paranoia levels of racism black people do and always assume. But there are also lot of white people in our country that are racists.
Its very difficult to answer these in terms of generalities since its obviously based on the individual. But by and large i'd say white people would paint it as an isolated incident, or just coincidence, more than automatically assuming its racism. But more than anything depends on the incident we're talking about here.
There are just some mentalities in black communities that aren't often discussed but are true. Like how many of them fear the cops more than they do drug dealers and pimps in their neighborhoods, and won't cooperate with authorities to lock them up. Being a white cop in a black neighborhood isn't exactly safe even for a cop, and even paramedics, when they are riled up from some racial incident. LA riots and what happened to Reginal Denny is a good example of how black concentrated communities have reverse racist tendencies. But man, i feel sorry for that introverted white kid thats easy to pick on going to a predominantly black school. I've seen some of that firsthand, and it is definitely a racist perception against 'white boys' more than anyone that exists.
glorystack Sep 16, 2009 at 6:20 pm
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There are a few ways to look at race in the US. We are the most diverse country in the world and house every type of culture and in that sense, we are pretty civil towards each other. Other countries where they are much more homogenized, they are much more xenophobe than Americans.
All that said, racism in the US is much more subversive and malicious. That's probably why you think people overreact and cry racism. Guess what, racism in America is hard to spot. Most people don't come up to you and call you a ****** or a gook to your face.
What is done in America is that blacks are followed by employees when they enter high end shopping stores, pulled over by cops when driving a nice car; things of that ilk.
There is also racism done as a society against blacks. Why are black males incarcerated on a 10-1 ratio compared to their white counterparts when white's make up a much larger percentage of the population? Why are black children not receiving the same quality of education as their white counterparts?
Whites are treated very differently than people of color in this country. That is a fact.
All that said, racism in the US is much more subversive and malicious. That's probably why you think people overreact and cry racism. Guess what, racism in America is hard to spot. Most people don't come up to you and call you a ****** or a gook to your face.
What is done in America is that blacks are followed by employees when they enter high end shopping stores, pulled over by cops when driving a nice car; things of that ilk.
There is also racism done as a society against blacks. Why are black males incarcerated on a 10-1 ratio compared to their white counterparts when white's make up a much larger percentage of the population? Why are black children not receiving the same quality of education as their white counterparts?
Whites are treated very differently than people of color in this country. That is a fact.
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 6:39 pm
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Yes but racial profiling is a fact of policing. You don't blame air marshals or airport security for profiling middle easterners, but you expect police in a high crime inner city area not to see color at all? In relation to their last 10, 20, 50 arrests? Do you not have regularities that occur with your job where things become rather predictable to some degree? Can you really blame them? I don't.
Your other gripes are based a lot on poverty, how poorly some black parents raise their kids, and just issues african americans have within their race like raising fatherless children. Society doesn't force them into crime, they see the easy money and all of that status that goes with it, and voluntarily take that short cut in life to wealth and assets. Thats what bothers me most in how people try and portray it like every thug, gangster, etc. was forced into that when it was completely voluntary. Any kid in high school would've loved not to have to go to school every day, while making a lot more money than other kids their age with much nicer gear/car slinging dope on a street corner.
I agree whites are treated differently and tend to have an easier road to success, but blacks have more than enough opportunity in today's America. You guys can't keep pretending the white man is holding you down since there are so many ways to succeed and make something out of yourself regardless of what skin color you are today.
Your other gripes are based a lot on poverty, how poorly some black parents raise their kids, and just issues african americans have within their race like raising fatherless children. Society doesn't force them into crime, they see the easy money and all of that status that goes with it, and voluntarily take that short cut in life to wealth and assets. Thats what bothers me most in how people try and portray it like every thug, gangster, etc. was forced into that when it was completely voluntary. Any kid in high school would've loved not to have to go to school every day, while making a lot more money than other kids their age with much nicer gear/car slinging dope on a street corner.
I agree whites are treated differently and tend to have an easier road to success, but blacks have more than enough opportunity in today's America. You guys can't keep pretending the white man is holding you down since there are so many ways to succeed and make something out of yourself regardless of what skin color you are today.
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 6:43 pm
+1 votes
And yes i know more than a few black lawyers that went to public school with me, including a few doctors.
glorystack Sep 16, 2009 at 8:14 pm
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First point. Police racially profiling is unconstitutional as said by our supreme court. So when you are targeted because of your race, it is illegal. That is why everyone must take off their shoes at airports and everyone must not carry liquids onto airplanes. It's to provide the guise of equality even though we know statistically arabs are the most likely to blow **** up.
Second point. No **** black people are in bad shape because they are in poverty in the inner cities and rural areas. Why are so many black parents absent? It's because they are in jail for crimes that a white person gets probation for or not even prosecuted at all. I've done a ****load of drugs in my life. Done alot of illegal things, but have never been arrested. It's because cops dont patrol my neighborhood all the ******* time. I do not live in a police state. Young black youths turn to crime because their alternative is ****. They go to terrible pisspoor schools and live in dangerous neighborhoods. Do you see any parks in the projects? Any baseball fields? No you dont, they play in abondonded crackhouses and empty lots. Government doesnt do **** for that segment of society. Yea they get welfare and dumb **** like that. But teach a man to fish .....
Don't use anicdotal evidence as concrete proof that suceeding when you are born with the odds stacked against you are simple.
Ask any child in poverty, ask any mother or father of these children if they could switch places with a white suburban family what do you think they would say? You're thinking that these black kids who are thugs and gangsters are inately bad people. That in and of itself is racist.
Second point. No **** black people are in bad shape because they are in poverty in the inner cities and rural areas. Why are so many black parents absent? It's because they are in jail for crimes that a white person gets probation for or not even prosecuted at all. I've done a ****load of drugs in my life. Done alot of illegal things, but have never been arrested. It's because cops dont patrol my neighborhood all the ******* time. I do not live in a police state. Young black youths turn to crime because their alternative is ****. They go to terrible pisspoor schools and live in dangerous neighborhoods. Do you see any parks in the projects? Any baseball fields? No you dont, they play in abondonded crackhouses and empty lots. Government doesnt do **** for that segment of society. Yea they get welfare and dumb **** like that. But teach a man to fish .....
Don't use anicdotal evidence as concrete proof that suceeding when you are born with the odds stacked against you are simple.
Ask any child in poverty, ask any mother or father of these children if they could switch places with a white suburban family what do you think they would say? You're thinking that these black kids who are thugs and gangsters are inately bad people. That in and of itself is racist.
Smokeee Sep 17, 2009 at 12:20 pm
+1 votes
I'm talking about the reality of policing. I don't care if some politician wants to make racial profiling illegal to be politically correct to everyone. Fact is they do it, it comes with the job, and no matter who you are you're going to see consistency in your job and come to generalize certain things. Does that mean the officer is going to automatically assume a black guy committed a crime? Of course not. But is he going to pull over a car full of black guys in a hooptie after a crime is committed over a white guy in a Corolla? Probably.
Do you blame airport security and air marshals being more suspicious of middle easterners than other ethnicities? I'm sure most of America doesn't. They are afraid for their safety, and that politically correct garbage doesn't play when another 9/11 can happen. Yep there are white Taliban, probably some azn terrorists somewhere, but the truth is its highly more likely to be a middle easterner. Just like a crime in the inner city is highly more likely to be a black guy.
I don't care how hard you pretend black people have it because i KNOW 100% every one of them HAD an opportunity to do well in school, get good grades, go to college, and make something of themself. How much does pen and paper cost? WTF else do you need to succeed in school? Its so stupid to try and blame society for the mistakes and shortcuts individuals make. Most kids hated going to school everyday. They probably all wanted to hang out smoking weed, drinking, and partying somewhere. Those people chose to get involved in that, and then they end up like you, trying to blame society for their own mistakes. Its always the man out to get them, white people owe us, when none of y'all had it nearly as bad as your forefathers and were born with completely clean slates in a very opportunistic country. Seriously are you saying kids can't get into colleges from doing well in inner city schools? What exactly is the excuse here other than them being undisciplined or short term gratification getting caught up in dealing drugs?
I already said white people generally have easier roads to success but don't portray it like black people don't have any opportunities towards that same success. My experience of the public school system(and its not like i went to some great public school with great teachers either, they were actually pretty ****ty) was that it was completely equal opportunity. If anything black people had it easier applying to colleges and getting scholarships than any other race.
Do you blame airport security and air marshals being more suspicious of middle easterners than other ethnicities? I'm sure most of America doesn't. They are afraid for their safety, and that politically correct garbage doesn't play when another 9/11 can happen. Yep there are white Taliban, probably some azn terrorists somewhere, but the truth is its highly more likely to be a middle easterner. Just like a crime in the inner city is highly more likely to be a black guy.
I don't care how hard you pretend black people have it because i KNOW 100% every one of them HAD an opportunity to do well in school, get good grades, go to college, and make something of themself. How much does pen and paper cost? WTF else do you need to succeed in school? Its so stupid to try and blame society for the mistakes and shortcuts individuals make. Most kids hated going to school everyday. They probably all wanted to hang out smoking weed, drinking, and partying somewhere. Those people chose to get involved in that, and then they end up like you, trying to blame society for their own mistakes. Its always the man out to get them, white people owe us, when none of y'all had it nearly as bad as your forefathers and were born with completely clean slates in a very opportunistic country. Seriously are you saying kids can't get into colleges from doing well in inner city schools? What exactly is the excuse here other than them being undisciplined or short term gratification getting caught up in dealing drugs?
I already said white people generally have easier roads to success but don't portray it like black people don't have any opportunities towards that same success. My experience of the public school system(and its not like i went to some great public school with great teachers either, they were actually pretty ****ty) was that it was completely equal opportunity. If anything black people had it easier applying to colleges and getting scholarships than any other race.
Olram Sep 16, 2009 at 1:53 pm
+1 votes
Course my mind is thinking what is it going to take for America to be
in a mature post-racial state where a White kid can beat up a black kid
or vice versa without it being instantly caricatured as racism.
Don't act like your different, if things were the other way around and a black kid was being beaten up you would be the first here to call for racism, and thats not even an assumption.
they were lucky it wasnt someone like me, godsmak or gibtehsix in our highschool days on that bus, we would have beaten all those ******* to pulp.
in a mature post-racial state where a White kid can beat up a black kid
or vice versa without it being instantly caricatured as racism.
Don't act like your different, if things were the other way around and a black kid was being beaten up you would be the first here to call for racism, and thats not even an assumption.
they were lucky it wasnt someone like me, godsmak or gibtehsix in our highschool days on that bus, we would have beaten all those ******* to pulp.
Iori Sep 16, 2009 at 5:14 pm
+1 votes
Olram said
Course my mind is thinking what is it going to take for America to be
in a mature post-racial state where a White kid can beat up a black kid
or vice versa without it being instantly caricatured as racism.
Don't act like your different, if things were the other way around and a black kid was being beaten up you would be the first here to call for racism, and thats not even an assumption.
they were lucky it wasnt someone like me, godsmak or gibtehsix in our highschool days on that bus, we would have beaten all those ******* to pulp.
in a mature post-racial state where a White kid can beat up a black kid
or vice versa without it being instantly caricatured as racism.
Don't act like your different, if things were the other way around and a black kid was being beaten up you would be the first here to call for racism, and thats not even an assumption.
they were lucky it wasnt someone like me, godsmak or gibtehsix in our highschool days on that bus, we would have beaten all those ******* to pulp.
Olram Sep 16, 2009 at 7:25 pm
+1 votes
was referring to the vid. If the white kid beat you up for no good reason and had a white crowd cheering him on during/after I'm sure racism wouldnt have crossed your mind.
I cant judge your 1 on 1.
I cant judge your 1 on 1.
Iori Sep 16, 2009 at 10:50 pm
+1 votes
Olram said
was referring to the vid. If the white kid beat you up for no good reason and had a white crowd cheering him on during/after I'm sure racism wouldnt have crossed your mind.
I cant judge your 1 on 1.
I cant judge your 1 on 1.
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 12:08 pm
+1 votes
glorystack said
Honestly I never knew there were people like that. People who are being beaten that badly to not even fight back at all. It's not like he was knocked out, the other kid was just going at him repeatedly, he was just taking haymakers to the face.
Now to call this racially motivated would be premature. Wholly possible, but nothing from that video suggests as much. To me it just seems like normal HS bull****. The white kid clearly has some issues to be that meek. If my memory of HS is accurate, teenagers prey on the weak to make themselves feel better.
What I think that video shows more about bystanders than anything else. Nobody stepped up for the weak until the very end.
Now to call this racially motivated would be premature. Wholly possible, but nothing from that video suggests as much. To me it just seems like normal HS bull****. The white kid clearly has some issues to be that meek. If my memory of HS is accurate, teenagers prey on the weak to make themselves feel better.
What I think that video shows more about bystanders than anything else. Nobody stepped up for the weak until the very end.
I'd go as far to say 3/4's of my high school population was meek. Definitely more meek kids than kids who got in fights often. Its always the same people who get in fights and in trouble in general.
Wadsworth1 Sep 17, 2009 at 12:38 am
+1 votes
Yeah, he was meek, however he now has video evidence for a lawsuit against multiple parties. Not sure about the laws in butt-**** MO, but here in Illinois if the white kid/his parents were to sue would be a whole lot people paying up.
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 11:41 am
+1 votes
No offense dude but if you went to school in the city(high black population) you weren't getting 1v1 fights against black dudes if you were white, and even if you did you'd get jumped right afterward. Inner city schools have sort of a white boy bias of reverse racism. When i went to HS, people got jumped more than things being duels.
Taldrod Sep 16, 2009 at 12:26 pm
+1 votes
Realistically, in a bus full of black kids, if the white kid had so much as thrown a punch, half of the bus would have jumped on him and justified it by calling him a racist. I think it would have done him well to simply defend himself as best as he could and wait until the situation calms down.
Smokeee Sep 16, 2009 at 12:37 pm
+2 votes
I agree. He would've just either gotten beaten down harder or some of the others would've thrown sucker punches in too. I'm surprised they didn't throughout that, but i've seen it a lot in HS.
I just think many introverted white kids more than any other race end up picked on, and beaten up pretty often if they go to highly populated black schools. When you can't/don't defend yourself it makes the bullying worse, since other people will realize they can **** with them without him doing anything.
I just think many introverted white kids more than any other race end up picked on, and beaten up pretty often if they go to highly populated black schools. When you can't/don't defend yourself it makes the bullying worse, since other people will realize they can **** with them without him doing anything.
glorystack Sep 16, 2009 at 12:47 pm
+1 votes
Ok consequences be damned. I've only been in a handful of fights my entire life and am not claiming myself to be an internet tough guy. I would much rather flee from an unwinnable fight than start beefing it out. But come on, who in their right minds would be there and start thinking, "well theres an awful of black kids here, they will probably beat my ass if I fight back so i best not." I dont know if there is a person (man or woman) who wouldnt bow right the **** up once they were put in that positition.
Quick Shot xMLx Sep 16, 2009 at 12:48 pm
+2 votes
I agree, I went to a inner city school(at least 70% black) and people would get jumped left and right. Every once in a while you'd see a 1v1 but for every 1v1 5 people got jumped. The video could have been racism(I've seen stuff like that before) but it's impossible to say just because of the video. "Thug" ****** in HS they live to try to prove how "hard" they are when they're actually *******.
The 1st attacker, he's just pissed at life for no reason, sees this soft looking white boy, "don't sit on my seat *****" oh how many times have I see **** like that. Decides this is his chance to "be known" and get some "rep." Hell why fight someone on the street or a gang member or someone of actual significance when you can fight a white kid on the bus? So he hits him and the dumb white kid doesn't fight back(wow big mistake). Had that kid swung back, win, loss, or draw I bet nobody would have ****** with him. But he didn't, so the 2nd kid took his "opportunity" as well and ****** him up as well. It's some sad **** but it would've happened regardless of what race the kid was, but the fact he's white probably didn't help his situation.
The 1st attacker, he's just pissed at life for no reason, sees this soft looking white boy, "don't sit on my seat *****" oh how many times have I see **** like that. Decides this is his chance to "be known" and get some "rep." Hell why fight someone on the street or a gang member or someone of actual significance when you can fight a white kid on the bus? So he hits him and the dumb white kid doesn't fight back(wow big mistake). Had that kid swung back, win, loss, or draw I bet nobody would have ****** with him. But he didn't, so the 2nd kid took his "opportunity" as well and ****** him up as well. It's some sad **** but it would've happened regardless of what race the kid was, but the fact he's white probably didn't help his situation.
Iori Sep 16, 2009 at 12:54 pm
+1 votes
Quick Shot xMLx said
I agree, I went to a inner city school(at least 70% black) and people would get jumped left and right. Every once in a while you'd see a 1v1 but for every 1v1 5 people got jumped. The video could have been racism(I've seen stuff like that before) but it's impossible to say just because of the video. "Thug" ****** in HS they live to try to prove how "hard" they are when they're actually *******.
The 1st attacker, he's just pissed at life for no reason, sees this soft looking white boy, "don't sit on my seat *****" oh how many times have I see **** like that. Decides this is his chance to "be known" and get some "rep." Hell why fight someone on the street or a gang member or someone of actual significance when you can fight a white kid on the bus? So he hits him and the dumb white kid doesn't fight back(wow big mistake). Had that kid swung back, win, loss, or draw I bet nobody would have ****** with him. But he didn't, so the 2nd kid took his "opportunity" as well and ****** him up as well. It's some sad **** but it would've happened regardless of what race the kid was, but the fact he's white probably didn't help his situation.
The 1st attacker, he's just pissed at life for no reason, sees this soft looking white boy, "don't sit on my seat *****" oh how many times have I see **** like that. Decides this is his chance to "be known" and get some "rep." Hell why fight someone on the street or a gang member or someone of actual significance when you can fight a white kid on the bus? So he hits him and the dumb white kid doesn't fight back(wow big mistake). Had that kid swung back, win, loss, or draw I bet nobody would have ****** with him. But he didn't, so the 2nd kid took his "opportunity" as well and ****** him up as well. It's some sad **** but it would've happened regardless of what race the kid was, but the fact he's white probably didn't help his situation.
soft looking white boy, "don't sit on my seat *****" oh how many times
have I see **** like that. Decides this is his chance to "be known"
and get some "rep." Hell why fight someone on the street or a gang
member or someone of actual significance when you can fight a white kid
on the bus? So he hits him and the dumb white kid doesn't fight
back(wow big mistake). Had that kid swung back, win, loss, or draw I
bet nobody would have ****** with him. But he didn't, so the 2nd kid
took his "opportunity" as well and ****** him up as well. It's some
sad **** but it would've happened regardless of what race the kid was,
but the fact he's white probably didn't help his situation.
Comments like this gives me faith people care for the big picture.
Klynx Sep 16, 2009 at 5:25 pm
+1 votes
Quick Shot xMLx said
I agree, I went to a inner city school(at least 70% black) and people would get jumped left and right. Every once in a while you'd see a 1v1 but for every 1v1 5 people got jumped. The video could have been racism(I've seen stuff like that before) but it's impossible to say just because of the video. "Thug" ****** in HS they live to try to prove how "hard" they are when they're actually *******.
The 1st attacker, he's just pissed at life for no reason, sees this soft looking white boy, "don't sit on my seat *****" oh how many times have I see **** like that. Decides this is his chance to "be known" and get some "rep." Hell why fight someone on the street or a gang member or someone of actual significance when you can fight a white kid on the bus? So he hits him and the dumb white kid doesn't fight back(wow big mistake). Had that kid swung back, win, loss, or draw I bet nobody would have ****** with him. But he didn't, so the 2nd kid took his "opportunity" as well and ****** him up as well. It's some sad **** but it would've happened regardless of what race the kid was, but the fact he's white probably didn't help his situation.
The 1st attacker, he's just pissed at life for no reason, sees this soft looking white boy, "don't sit on my seat *****" oh how many times have I see **** like that. Decides this is his chance to "be known" and get some "rep." Hell why fight someone on the street or a gang member or someone of actual significance when you can fight a white kid on the bus? So he hits him and the dumb white kid doesn't fight back(wow big mistake). Had that kid swung back, win, loss, or draw I bet nobody would have ****** with him. But he didn't, so the 2nd kid took his "opportunity" as well and ****** him up as well. It's some sad **** but it would've happened regardless of what race the kid was, but the fact he's white probably didn't help his situation.
Eye for an eye and the whole world's blind in this case.
Quick Shot xMLx Sep 16, 2009 at 6:28 pm
+1 votes
Klynx said
OR the kid would have tried to fight back and the surrounding pack of black kids would have lunged and beaten the ever-living **** out of him and probably done it other times as well in the future out of spite and revenge.
Eye for an eye and the whole world's blind in this case.
Eye for an eye and the whole world's blind in this case.
Klynx Sep 16, 2009 at 7:05 pm
+3 votes
How brave do you have to be when there are a dozen of you and one white kid? Also, blacks are way more tribal in their pecking order with physical violence, from my anecdotal experience.
Slapnuts Sep 16, 2009 at 8:51 am
+1 votes
Hrm, that is the first I've heard of them having any sort of region coding, when did this happen?
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/09/terrorists-blow-themselves-up-trying-to.html
There is the last video, and the first one can be found on the news
story links as well.
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/09/terrorists-blow-themselves-up-trying-to.html
There is the last video, and the first one can be found on the news
story links as well.
Imaloc Sep 16, 2009 at 10:14 am
+3 votes
Wait you didn't know that it can only be racially motivated if a white person attacks a minority? Hell look at the world today it's ok for a black person to call me a cracker but if I even hint at the N word I'll get my ass in so much trouble. Even the government operates that way they give companies ran by "minorities" a buffer on job bids. Sorry Mr. Construction Company you were the lowest bid but we gave the job to someone else because their company is ran by a minority. Kinda sad the civil right movement fought for racial equality and we still can't treat each other the same.
tunafresh Sep 16, 2009 at 4:21 pm
-1 votes
Are you mad that you can't say the n word, or are you repeating millions of people?
Imaloc Sep 16, 2009 at 6:52 pm
+3 votes
No I am not mad that I can't say the n word. Never thought it was appropriate or had a need to use it. I am not racist, but I find it odd that it is ok socially for a minority to call me a cracker but if I say something with even a hint of racial bias they get insulted and throw the you're a racist card at me. If we are all supposed to be judged on the content of our character and not the color of our skin why does society change the rules in the favor of minorities.
Bwozz Sep 16, 2009 at 9:22 pm
+1 votes
Yeah, the whole reason affirmative action exists is because minorities believe that white people only get things because they're white, so Blacks need a boost. Yet, if you accuse a black person of getting a job through affirmative action they go ****in nuts.
Guidor Sep 17, 2009 at 9:01 am
+1 votes
same. I nearly stopped watching it, I find that harder to watch than gore.
Idgit Sep 16, 2009 at 11:31 am
+2 votes
Slapnuts. You're such a conservative cracker idot ****. It disgusts me to read your commentary regarding current events.
Olram Sep 16, 2009 at 4:50 pm
+0 votes
slapnuts. You're such a wise invidual and talented writer. Its such a joy to read your articles and i feel blessed with your commentary regarding current events.
Slapnuts Sep 16, 2009 at 5:01 pm
+0 votes
Your viewership is much appreciated. I please as many as I possibly can.
Olram Sep 16, 2009 at 5:15 pm
+1 votes
no problem dude, first time were talking by i already feel like were bonding, if only i could kiss you man.
Klynx Sep 16, 2009 at 5:27 pm
+1 votes
Slapnuts. You're such a rational-minded upstanding smart Bro Namath. It pleases me to read your two cents on current happenings around the world.
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