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by Slapnuts, Level 70
Last updated at October 18, 2008, 9:43 pm
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Another edition of Slapnut's Weekly Top Five is live for your reading pleasure. Tonight's topic is the long debated PC gaming vs. console gaming, and how PC gaming is superior. This will be the first of two parts as next week I will take the opposite stance and see what kind of objections and support we can come up with for each side.
I got to thinking tonight about when I first started gaming, way back in the Atari days. While my gaming days may have started on a console, I didn't really get heavy into PC gaming until I bought my first PC in 1997. Since then I probably favor PC gaming about 60-40. My years playing Counter Strike and Team Fortress account for a good chunk of that. I asked myself what makes PC gaming better than playing on consoles and these were the key points I came up with.
![]() The greatest mod in PC gaming history? |
Some of the best PC games have sprouted up as mods of other games. Just on the Valve end there is Counter Strike, Day of Defeat, Gary's Mod, Team Fortress. Try making mods of your Xbox 360 games in hopes of it becoming a stand along product, not happening. Many PC games allow for customizations like skins, new UIs and graphical enhancements. Good luck making those changes on a console. Generally what you get when it comes out is what you will always have game wise. And if there are additions to console games, generally you have to pay for them vs. being free on the PC.
![]() The future of CPUs, Intel's new I7 Chips |
Not having to buy a brand new system to play the next generation of games is a huge advantage when it comes to PC games. Do you want to play Halo 3, or Metal Gear 4? Go buy a new console. Playing Starcraft 2 and Halo 2 isn't nearly as difficult or expensive. Sure you may need to make hardware upgrades from at times to keep up with the curve, or you can often just run games at lower settings. Plus the fact that your PC is used for many other things besides games make any kind of upgrade even more valuable. When your Xbox 360 is on the fritz or RROD'ing there isn't much you can do to fix it. If you PC is acting up, swap in some hardware and you are good to go.
![]() Try playing this on your Playstation 3... |
First person shooters, massively multiplayer online games and real-time strategy games are all superior on a PC. FPS games are my favorite genre and everyone knows the best FPS titles are on PC. Consoles have yet to do a really successful MMO. RTS games on a console, with their simplified controls, is usually a mess. Analog sticks will never be a worthy replacement over a mouse.
![]() This makes analog sticks shake right off of a controller. |
There is no substitute for the accuracy of a mouse and the control depth of a keyboard. Most controllers have no more than 10 or so buttons for various controls. You could cut your keyboard in thirds and still have more buttons than that. Aiming with an analog stick is like cutting prime rib with a spoon. You wouldn't cut your steak with a spoon when an amazing knife, as seen on the right, is available would you? 1:1 positioning with a mouse is far superior than arbitrary locations with a analog stick
1. Better Graphics
This is a given. Better hardware leads to higher quality graphics. More eye candy, more anti-aliasing, higher resolutions and a greater frame rate. 60 frames per second is often "quality" on a console title. 60 frames per second is merely average on a PC. Nearly every single game that sees a console and a PC release looks better on the PC (except when devs do ****ty ports to the PC). I can game in 1920x1200 on my PC, or I can play at 1280x720 (few console games support 1080p) on my PS3. With the rate of graphics cards updates consoles just can't compete graphically for the long haul.Â
These are the five main reasons I feel PC gaming is superior to consoles. Next week however I give out some console love and I will tackle the five reasons consoles reign supreme.Â
Any thoughts, comments or questions, lets hear them.Â

90 comments
Arirang Oct 18, 2008 at 9:51 pm
+1 votes
But console games come with better playability than PC games do.
Especially multi-player games do.
The concept of "game that grows and change with community" was cool back in 90s.
But somehow it got turned into, "game that can be released at beta and make changes along the way while charging people money."
Especially multi-player games do.
The concept of "game that grows and change with community" was cool back in 90s.
But somehow it got turned into, "game that can be released at beta and make changes along the way while charging people money."
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 10:03 pm
+1 votes
"game that can be released at beta and make changes along the way while charging people money."
Dont even try to say that **** isn't happening routinely on consoles now days...
Dont even try to say that **** isn't happening routinely on consoles now days...
Lusitania Oct 18, 2008 at 10:14 pm
+6 votes
But console games come with better playability than PC games do.
Naive and untrue.
Naive and untrue.
Heldericht Oct 19, 2008 at 4:12 pm
+1 votes
Umm no, where the hell are you coming up with the 'better playability' argument from? Don't just make arbitrary statements.
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 10:15 pm
+1 votes
Word. My toilet hates me from a post-bar taco bell session last night. =/
Dirte Oct 18, 2008 at 10:35 pm
+1 votes
Man, I can't eat Taco Bell anymore...just doesn't sit right with me at all 
Back on subject though, why is it that we are seeing a decline in PC gaming as compared to console gaming? While each platform has its perks, I believe consoles are much more accessible to the younger generations.
Back on subject though, why is it that we are seeing a decline in PC gaming as compared to console gaming? While each platform has its perks, I believe consoles are much more accessible to the younger generations.
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 10:42 pm
+1 votes
I think marketing is a part of it. You can market a 360 or a PS3 but it is much harder to market PC gaming. With all the manufacturers, hardware vendors, etc. The only semi-unified front is Games for Windows.Â
Piracy is the often used excuse for a decline in sales, and games going multi platform. PC gaming is a bit more difficult in some aspects. It isn't quite "insert disk and play" as its console brethren. It is a bit more "techy" with drivers, hardware configurations, etc.Â
There are quite a few factors, but nothing that should prevent a resurgence if the PC industry gets their act together.
Piracy is the often used excuse for a decline in sales, and games going multi platform. PC gaming is a bit more difficult in some aspects. It isn't quite "insert disk and play" as its console brethren. It is a bit more "techy" with drivers, hardware configurations, etc.Â
There are quite a few factors, but nothing that should prevent a resurgence if the PC industry gets their act together.
dub Oct 18, 2008 at 10:47 pm
+1 votes
Hardware is cheaper (just compare an average PC to a console, especially Wii) and the mentioned better-with-friends thing.
Rorschach Oct 18, 2008 at 10:59 pm
+1 votes
You can't really compare hardware costs unless you can figure out some way to measure just the gaming side of a PC's hardware cost.
The PC is much more than a gaming machine, so they hardware costs aren't really compatible. Your PC can act as a media center, a web browser, a work machine, messaging, email, storage medium, you name it.
The PC is much more than a gaming machine, so they hardware costs aren't really compatible. Your PC can act as a media center, a web browser, a work machine, messaging, email, storage medium, you name it.
dub Oct 18, 2008 at 11:03 pm
+1 votes
Aren't we talking about gaming? So let's split up PS3 into console, blu-ray player, dvd upscaler, ...
I'd say people owning a gaming PC are much more likely to have a console than the other way around (console fans maybe own a PC for surfing, office, ..)
I'd say people owning a gaming PC are much more likely to have a console than the other way around (console fans maybe own a PC for surfing, office, ..)
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 11:09 pm
+1 votes
I think the point he is making is that the PC is much more valuable overall. And there are far more PCs in the house than consoles.Â
My PC is used for two different jobs among many of those things Rorschach mentions. How would I then measure its cost and value to the PS3 I use as a blu-ray player and a gaming machine?
My PC is used for two different jobs among many of those things Rorschach mentions. How would I then measure its cost and value to the PS3 I use as a blu-ray player and a gaming machine?
dub Oct 18, 2008 at 11:14 pm
+1 votes
You're right, but bear in mind not everyone has the money to keep PC hardware upgraded to play the newest FPS and own a console.. so when people have to choose I guess more would opt for a console - the point above was: why are PC game sales going down the toilet while consoles are up.
Banewlf Oct 19, 2008 at 1:26 am
+1 votes
The thing is there is a disconnect between keeping your PC up to date for gaming (which costs large amounts of money compared to a console, even for a generation or two behind on hardware) and it being used for other things such as surfing.
You can spend 100$ on some horrid used emachine on ebay and you will be able to use excel, word, surf, and all of the other typical things. But when you spend 650$ on the latest Graphics card those things dont improve in any real way. So I dont really see how you can justify saying the brunt of the expense on a pc isnt specifically for gaming. What else in your typical PC endeavors benefits from spending large amounts of money on upgrades besides gaming?
You can spend 100$ on some horrid used emachine on ebay and you will be able to use excel, word, surf, and all of the other typical things. But when you spend 650$ on the latest Graphics card those things dont improve in any real way. So I dont really see how you can justify saying the brunt of the expense on a pc isnt specifically for gaming. What else in your typical PC endeavors benefits from spending large amounts of money on upgrades besides gaming?
Slapnuts Oct 19, 2008 at 1:41 am
+1 votes
To think you need spend $650 to play any game is absurd, that is pure excess. You can run basically anything but crysis on a $100 card right now at varied levels of graphical settings. The assumption that you have upgrade constantly is quite far off as well. I have a X1950 Pro, which is now 4 generations old, as a back up benchmarking card and it still runs pretty much everything just fine.
Image and video editing both benefit quite a bit from various hardware upgrades. Encoding video especially. Using your PC as a media center is going to benefit from better hardware. Using your PC as a server also helps having quality hardware.
Image and video editing both benefit quite a bit from various hardware upgrades. Encoding video especially. Using your PC as a media center is going to benefit from better hardware. Using your PC as a server also helps having quality hardware.
Hektik Oct 19, 2008 at 10:24 am
+1 votes
I think marketing is a part of it. You can market a 360 or a PS3 but it is much harder to market PC gaming. With all the manufacturers, hardware vendors, etc. The only semi-unified front is Games for Windows.Â
Last I checked, the PC market didn't account for online sales in most titles. (Digital Downloads from places like steam or D2D. Or hell, some of their own websites.) They just include box sales. Other things I've read, would counter that PC gaming is a lot healthier because of the digital distribution, then the current technology for 'counting' sales would say.
Last I checked, the PC market didn't account for online sales in most titles. (Digital Downloads from places like steam or D2D. Or hell, some of their own websites.) They just include box sales. Other things I've read, would counter that PC gaming is a lot healthier because of the digital distribution, then the current technology for 'counting' sales would say.
Slapnuts Oct 19, 2008 at 1:36 pm
+1 votes
Considering the very few digital download services, and the only really successful one being steam, I highly doubt it is able to make up that much ground.
azrailx Oct 19, 2008 at 8:05 pm
+1 votes
direct 2 drive and impulse also, and i think it will make up more of it, i and a majority of my friends buy all my games from such services
Rorschach Oct 18, 2008 at 10:19 pm
+1 votes
If someone wants to buy me a Core I7 cpu next month I would love you forever. On board memory controller for the win!
morto Oct 19, 2008 at 4:12 am
+1 votes
in my opinion is a waste of money. because Core i7 only works with DDR3, both are to expensive and the best games that are coming out in Winter dont need this.
Slapnuts Oct 19, 2008 at 4:37 am
+1 votes
Triple channel memory is going to be a nice change. Sure nothing "requires" that kind of hardware yet, but that usually isn't the point.Â
If the I7 940 comes in around $550 I may go that route as I can get a X58 review motherboard and some DDR3 to review as well. Sell of my Q6600 G0, current mobo and ram and I come close to breaking even.
If the I7 940 comes in around $550 I may go that route as I can get a X58 review motherboard and some DDR3 to review as well. Sell of my Q6600 G0, current mobo and ram and I come close to breaking even.
dub Oct 18, 2008 at 10:28 pm
+1 votes
Your points are right when talking about sitting alone infront of your pc/console.. add in some friends and consoles shine. Personally I can't play FPS on a console, since I'm way too used to mouse/keyboard.. but I'm happy to own both :P
btw: I'm looking for a new gaming PC, any suggestions? Dell XPS looks quite good.
btw: I'm looking for a new gaming PC, any suggestions? Dell XPS looks quite good.
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 10:32 pm
+1 votes
Build it yourself if you have the knowledge. The XPS machines are pretty solid, and dell does offer fantastic customer service.Â
Right, you can't really play PC games with friends at your house, and that is something that will come up in next week's edition.Â
 Though you can play with your people on Steam Friends and on ventrilo, but it isn't quite the same as jamming on Rock Band or Madden with your pals drinking some beers.
Right, you can't really play PC games with friends at your house, and that is something that will come up in next week's edition.Â
dub Oct 18, 2008 at 10:40 pm
+1 votes
Building myself is not an option, I would rather enjoy building IKEA furniture all day
that leaves Dell I guess, their support is the big plus.
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 10:43 pm
+1 votes
Alienware is nice as well but not worth the price premium vs. a Dell imho.
dub Oct 18, 2008 at 10:51 pm
+1 votes
I don't need to play Crysis, Far Cry 2 and CoD 5 at once with 15 browsers and Photoshop open, so a $1600 XPS should do the job for a long time.
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 10:57 pm
+1 votes
I reviewed one of the XPS laptops a while back and loved it. It was basically a desktop replacement (heavy and loaded), but it was sure nice.
Opet Oct 19, 2008 at 8:58 am
+1 votes
Never buy an alienware, their customer service is dreadful and the laptops often don't work properly >.
azrailx Oct 19, 2008 at 12:31 am
+1 votes
decent companies you can buy comps from where you chose the parts, such as i buy power.
you can get a decent entry level comp from around $500-$600.
you can get a decent entry level comp from around $500-$600.
poega Oct 18, 2008 at 10:29 pm
+0 votes
#1 reason is graphics? are you ******* serious? Number one is obviously 2&3 (they are combined) along with better community support. Graphics are for console nerds.
shindofivezorz Oct 18, 2008 at 10:37 pm
+1 votes
i'd say #3 is big, and #1 is retarded
i play games, not graphics. the best games ever were on the SNES. some of my first games ever like Oregon trail on a mac II, despite being in black/white/random 8bit color, it was the first time i shot and killed something in my life. despite it being a pixel attacking a bear, it was Amazing.
i'd have to agree somewhat that console games don't have a hold on me as much as they use to. nintendo DS is fun partly cause of platformers, but idk, games are boring w/o competition. i wish smash bros wii hadn't turn out to be such a failure for the internet capability.
i play games, not graphics. the best games ever were on the SNES. some of my first games ever like Oregon trail on a mac II, despite being in black/white/random 8bit color, it was the first time i shot and killed something in my life. despite it being a pixel attacking a bear, it was Amazing.
i'd have to agree somewhat that console games don't have a hold on me as much as they use to. nintendo DS is fun partly cause of platformers, but idk, games are boring w/o competition. i wish smash bros wii hadn't turn out to be such a failure for the internet capability.
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 10:46 pm
+1 votes
I value quality graphics. Not over gameplay by any means. But if you give me Call of Duty 4 on the 360 or the PC and ask me to pick one I would take the PC one any day thanks to the mouse/keyboard and the fact that it is going to look much better on my quality hardware than on the 360.
shindofivezorz Oct 18, 2008 at 10:49 pm
+1 votes
oh i was unsure if you were the type of person that will buy a $500 video card (while complaining about buying a new console to play a new game) so you can see sparks fly off walls when u shoot at them.
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 10:55 pm
+1 votes
Nope, that isn't me. Now I do have very nice hardware, don't get me wrong. Mainly thanks to writing for a hardware site and hook ups within the industry. I don't think I have ever spent more than $300 on any piece of hardware. A couple of my hard drives have come close though.
shindofivezorz Oct 18, 2008 at 11:16 pm
+1 votes
i bought a 8800gt vidoe card for $300 from the money i made selling gold, and also a nintendo wii.
selling gold was the best part of World of Warcraft. i wish i had frapsed and made a movie of every time someone traded me 600g (18 times a week, for 15 weeks)
selling gold was the best part of World of Warcraft. i wish i had frapsed and made a movie of every time someone traded me 600g (18 times a week, for 15 weeks)
Afgar Oct 18, 2008 at 11:46 pm
+1 votes
"I value quality graphics. Not over gameplay by any means. But if you give me Call of Duty 4 on the 360 or the PC and ask me to pick one I would take the PC one any day thanks to the mouse/keyboard and the fact that it is going to look much better on my quality hardware than on the 360."
But what if it looked better on the 360?
Personally I'd still go PC
But what if it looked better on the 360?
Personally I'd still go PC
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 11:58 pm
+1 votes
If it looked better, I'd still go PC thanks to mouse/keyboard =p
CrispyDeath Oct 18, 2008 at 11:08 pm
+1 votes
cheaper... and more quality games...
xbox live is a great service as well.
xbox live is a great service as well.
Dyzz Oct 18, 2008 at 11:15 pm
+1 votes
Yeah xbox live. Lets make you pay for the internet you already have.
Dyzz Oct 18, 2008 at 11:37 pm
+1 votes
I mean, Xbox live would be awesome if it wasnt a bunch of rehashed **** nobody really wants. I mean come the **** on.
Slapnuts Oct 18, 2008 at 11:41 pm
+1 votes
For someone who has been playing online pc games for free online since Quake, the thought of paying to play online just annoys the **** out of me. I realize it isn't expensive, and there is more to the service than just playing online. It is just the principle of the idea that gets to me.
Like you said, I already pay for my internet, why pay again?
Like you said, I already pay for my internet, why pay again?
Dyzz Oct 19, 2008 at 1:23 am
+3 votes
the only difference between mmos and regular online gaming is the mmos are WAY bigger in comparison and usually involve huge patches that are sort of expansions in themselves. If a game really interests me and they are going to instantly fix bugs and apply new items etc etc, i dont mind paying a montly fee.
The key is do you feel like your getting what you pay for. For wow? Yes. For Xbox Live? No.
The key is do you feel like your getting what you pay for. For wow? Yes. For Xbox Live? No.
CrispyDeath Oct 19, 2008 at 9:51 am
+1 votes
If a game really interests me and they are going to instantly fix bugs
and apply new items etc etc, i dont mind paying a montly fee.
I hope you're not talking about WoW.
And Xboxlive is like 4 bucks a month.
Have you used xboxlive? I definitely think that its worth the 4 dollars a month. I look forward to netflix coming to xboxlive. I'll at least try that out for a month or two.
and apply new items etc etc, i dont mind paying a montly fee.
I hope you're not talking about WoW.
And Xboxlive is like 4 bucks a month.
Have you used xboxlive? I definitely think that its worth the 4 dollars a month. I look forward to netflix coming to xboxlive. I'll at least try that out for a month or two.
Dyzz Oct 19, 2008 at 11:08 am
+1 votes
I have had xbox live since it came out.
And WoW is by far the most well maintained MMO to date. Compare it to everything else in its genre, and its leaps and bouncds ahead.
And WoW is by far the most well maintained MMO to date. Compare it to everything else in its genre, and its leaps and bouncds ahead.
CrispyDeath Oct 19, 2008 at 1:01 pm
+1 votes
Sorry, you're a bit delusional.
WoW is far from "instantly" fixing bugs and adding content.
Compared to Warhammer, its not leaps and bounds ahead of everything else in the genre. Warhammer has been out a month and already has a content patch scheduled for December.
WoW is far from "instantly" fixing bugs and adding content.
Compared to Warhammer, its not leaps and bounds ahead of everything else in the genre. Warhammer has been out a month and already has a content patch scheduled for December.
Dyzz Oct 19, 2008 at 4:04 pm
+1 votes
Do you even know the meaning of the word delusional? Warhammer has been out a month and already everyone i knew playing has quit and gone back to boring old wow.
Blizzard has almost instantly fixed any game breaking mechanics, as well as been pretty timely with nerfs and fixes.
AOC - Gimme a break, there was and still is a million bugs, glitches and hacks.
Warhammer - They do a good job, but tbh it cant even be compared as its only been around 1 month, and thats not a good timeframe to judge.
Theres a few other games out there, but none have stood the test of time or continues to maintain a rediculously huge player base.
Im not a wow fanboy, i just call it like it is. I ******* hate oil companies, but we put them in the position to control the oil, and we also put blizzard in the position to pretty much control the market. And at least they are relatively good at it.
Blizzard has almost instantly fixed any game breaking mechanics, as well as been pretty timely with nerfs and fixes.
AOC - Gimme a break, there was and still is a million bugs, glitches and hacks.
Warhammer - They do a good job, but tbh it cant even be compared as its only been around 1 month, and thats not a good timeframe to judge.
Theres a few other games out there, but none have stood the test of time or continues to maintain a rediculously huge player base.
Im not a wow fanboy, i just call it like it is. I ******* hate oil companies, but we put them in the position to control the oil, and we also put blizzard in the position to pretty much control the market. And at least they are relatively good at it.
CrispyDeath Oct 19, 2008 at 7:24 pm
+1 votes
Blizzard has almost instantly fixed any game breaking mechanics, as well as been pretty timely with nerfs and fixes.
Right, lol... you are delusional.
Right, lol... you are delusional.
jflanden Oct 18, 2008 at 11:25 pm
+1 votes
You should add Dungeon Crawlers like Diablo to number 3 because those suck on Consoles.
NlightN Oct 19, 2008 at 12:53 am
+1 votes
PC is obviously better for "hi i spend 4+ hours a day playing games" but console is better at just hanging around with friends and maybe play for 30mins-1hour.
I don't own any consoles because why would I want friends over trashing my place when I can go play on their system trashing their place.
I don't own any consoles because why would I want friends over trashing my place when I can go play on their system trashing their place.
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