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The above trailer is for the "Watchmen" movie based on of, if not the greatest graphic novel of all time. Check out in a larger resolution here.
The comic was a 12 issue mini series written by the literary genius Alan Moore. The movie is being directed Zack "300" Snyder and written by David "I voice Solid Snake and write scripts" Hayter.
For years I have abhorred the idea of someone making this into a movie as it is a fantastic read, filled with deep imagery, social commentary, and panel after panel of greatness. This graphic novel and Moore himself has won more awards than probably any comic in history.After seeing this trailer I can't deny being a bit excited for the movie. Apparently it will premiere before The Dark Knight starting this weekend (IMAX here I come). The image at 1:33 of Dr. Manhattan disintegrating the Vietnamese is crazy!
If you don't mind reading, definitely check out this graphic novel. One of the cheapest places online selling it is Tower.com. I'd sell ya one of my two copies but I have that one to read and this one on the left put away.
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Marvel Jul 17, 2008 at 6:52 pm
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Looks really good, hope it lives up to the book. Glad it's rated R too.
Slapnuts Jul 17, 2008 at 6:56 pm
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Before the success of 300 it was likely this movie would be PG-13. But after the money 300 made, proving hard R movies can turn big bucks, the studio basically gave Snyder carte blanche to do the movie as he saw fit.
Marvel Jul 17, 2008 at 7:02 pm
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Yeah I read that, good stuff. With it being rated R and now Snyder pushing for a 3 hour cut, the marketing is going to have to be really good, Dark Knight level, to get general audiences interested. I hope they can though, this is a gem.
Lusitania Jul 17, 2008 at 7:47 pm
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R can only help
Although the trailer hints at it not being totally awful, it did seem a little heavy on the ol' CGI.
Although the trailer hints at it not being totally awful, it did seem a little heavy on the ol' CGI.
Slapnuts Jul 17, 2008 at 7:49 pm
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That is probably my biggest concern. Snyder is very "stylish" with his movies, and this source material isn't something really demands that. However the style and cgi will probably appeal more to the mainstream audience who have no idea who the hell the Watchmen are.
I can handle the style as long as it stays close to the story, hits the key dialogue, and brings similar social commentary.
I can handle the style as long as it stays close to the story, hits the key dialogue, and brings similar social commentary.
Lusitania Jul 17, 2008 at 7:53 pm
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Agreed.
I'm sure he's aware of the obvious line between the CGI complementing the story or turning it into a Fantastic Four lookalike anyway.
I'm sure he's aware of the obvious line between the CGI complementing the story or turning it into a Fantastic Four lookalike anyway.
Kyle P. Jul 17, 2008 at 10:11 pm
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Its Snyder? Movie might have a real shot at goodness. Hes a smart cookie.
Slapnuts Jul 17, 2008 at 7:27 pm
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There is a touch of irony here... one of the ****tiest comic movies ever already had this on it's soundtrack, yet at a much faster pace.
Seems they redid the song for the Watchmen soundtrack.
Seems they redid the song for the Watchmen soundtrack.
Secksie Jul 25, 2008 at 1:09 pm
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actually, on further research, this version was also on the soundtrack.
betterthanyou Jul 17, 2008 at 8:04 pm
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It's going to be hard to make it good, well, as good as the comic.
uskglass Jul 17, 2008 at 8:27 pm
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Feels wrong: the 'heroes' look cool. That's just the opposite of the comic book, where they look pathetic and sad, as real persons dressed up in costumes would be (save Dr. Manhattan, who is neither a person nor a superhero but rather a god).
Terry Gilliam eventually gave up on the idea of filming this one, for it was likely impossible to pull out properly. Snyder didn't do a bad job with 300, but that's a totally different kind of animal.
Terry Gilliam eventually gave up on the idea of filming this one, for it was likely impossible to pull out properly. Snyder didn't do a bad job with 300, but that's a totally different kind of animal.
Slapnuts Jul 17, 2008 at 8:33 pm
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Gibbons wasn't really aiming for pathetic and sad however. His directives from Moore entailed realism but at the same time loosely based on the golden age era of comics. I think in the modern age of comic movies their "looking cool" can be passed off as realism. We have come a long way in technology, and style as a culture since the book was written in the 80's.
And would you really want to see the Owl up on screen in something ala the Batman TV show? As "authentic" as it would look, I think people shun it in a biased manner.
And would you really want to see the Owl up on screen in something ala the Batman TV show? As "authentic" as it would look, I think people shun it in a biased manner.
uskglass Jul 17, 2008 at 8:48 pm
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My point exactly: Watchman was intended to be (among many other things) the de-glorification of the superhero archetype. Take the golden/silver age models and put them in a real context; what do you get? something weird, puzzling, bizarre; and foundamentally deeply human.
If this idea is bent to the logic of blockbuster productions then the integrity of the work is going to be compromised.
Now, I can enjoy a good superhero run-of-the-mill movie like the next guy, as long as it is well done, but Watchmen is the last place where I would like to see this happen.
If this idea is bent to the logic of blockbuster productions then the integrity of the work is going to be compromised.
Now, I can enjoy a good superhero run-of-the-mill movie like the next guy, as long as it is well done, but Watchmen is the last place where I would like to see this happen.
Seleukos Jul 17, 2008 at 9:10 pm
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Personally I always thought how Rorschach looks is ******* badass and I have not been disapointed with the trailer. Also some of the other characters still look fairly dumb like they do in the comic. So I'm fairly happy with the imagery Syndar's (? spelling?) decided to go with.
Slapnuts Jul 17, 2008 at 9:23 pm
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I definitely understand and agree with what your saying. That was perfectly acceptable in the comics medium, but I don't think it fits here. The fact is, the studio is financing this to make money, and that could be a factor which turns people away unfortunately.
So they dumb it down a bit to make it more accessible, yet disappoint some hardcore fans. It is a fine line.
So they dumb it down a bit to make it more accessible, yet disappoint some hardcore fans. It is a fine line.
Opet Jul 17, 2008 at 10:55 pm
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The problem is you can render the tattyness stylistically much more easily in a comic than in a film. People see poor costumes / bad lighting / bad makeup and will not automatically interpret it as a stylistic choice; it'll often unconsciously just bring home the fact that it's a bunch of actors in silly costumes. I think with Watchmen he has to make it believable and consistent first and foremost; the human element will come automatically if much of the comic's story is kept. There is no way to romanticise some elements of that story :P
uskglass Jul 18, 2008 at 3:20 am
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my concern is about getting another 'V for Vendetta' movie here, which ended up being simple minded version of the comic.
Slapnuts Jul 18, 2008 at 3:36 am
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While I dream of this being a "cinematic masterpiece", I will take a V for Vendetta comparison over a Batman and Robin one. Though in either scenario I would much rather it just stay the graphic novel.
Ideally I felt this would have worked best as 12 part hbo mini series or something.
Ideally I felt this would have worked best as 12 part hbo mini series or something.
uskglass Jul 18, 2008 at 7:08 am
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If you haven't red the comic book I guess the V movie could be kind of ok, altough not memorable.
uskglass Jul 18, 2008 at 9:51 am
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Fair enough. It has not much to do with the comic book apart from a guy wearing a Guy Fawkes mask, but that's another matter.
Seleukos Jul 17, 2008 at 8:36 pm
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The Dark Knight Returns is the greatest comic ever written. But Watchmen is ******* awesome as well regardless. Just Dark Knight Returns is better.
Slapnuts Jul 17, 2008 at 8:47 pm
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I love DKR. That is my next Absolute version purchase. It was my favorite until I read Watchmen. But the "climatic fight", which I wont spoil, is probably my favorite comic fight in history.
Seleukos Jul 17, 2008 at 9:04 pm
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The climatic fight im Dark Knight Returns wins. I personally prefer Miller over Moore and I absolutly love both but I prefer The Dark Knight Returns.
Fat Robot Jul 18, 2008 at 9:05 am
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Agreed. I probably read it once a week. The plan is to get a panel from said fight put onto the fore arm.
Klat Jul 17, 2008 at 8:38 pm
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I'm excited- even though I doubt it will be as good as the book.
Slapnuts Jul 17, 2008 at 9:15 pm
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Ill take DKR over that. Though I have most of his run on DD in trades or comics. The whole elektra/bullseye storyline was fantastic.
Seleukos Jul 17, 2008 at 9:49 pm
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Good but not even ******* comparable to Dark Knight Returns.
Rexall Jul 17, 2008 at 10:18 pm
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I'm excited about this one. Seeing Dark Knight tomorrow too. Looks like people are finally realizing superhero movies can be serious films, instead of just 'lulz spiderman' for the kids.
I wish Snyder luck. Also, I heard they're planning a sequel to 300? Which is odd, because I don't recall reading a sequel.
I wish Snyder luck. Also, I heard they're planning a sequel to 300? Which is odd, because I don't recall reading a sequel.
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