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by kavekk, Level 41
Last updated at October 5, 2008, 2:44 pm
With two MLG tournament wins under their belt, Orz has proven the naysayers wrong. I think it can be said without exaggeration that they are far and away the best 3v3 team WoW has ever seen, overcoming conter-comps, bad RNG, Glickz breaking voice and Rhaegyn's giant nose. Hafu is, of course, perfect - the MVP of the tournament.

I think you owe her an apology, Gameriot.

In any case, Sunday's matches were certainly more interesting than Saturday's. I didn't much like the announcers, though - Vhell needs to get his priorities straight and stop going to weddings.
     
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Heldericht
Heldericht Oct 5, 2008 at 2:48 pm
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You best 3v3 in North America.

Have you ever seen some of the European and Asian teams play?
ashlie
ashlie Oct 5, 2008 at 2:55 pm
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This Blog is obviously an xp leeching troll, it's pretty obvious everyone was pissed with the RNG devours and the perfectly timed mace stuns. In other news i realise i'm a hypocrite.
kavekk
kavekk Oct 5, 2008 at 2:59 pm
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ashlie
ashlie Oct 5, 2008 at 3:02 pm
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****. Really? ****, i was just stabbin' in the dark.
Nobbeh
Nobbeh Oct 5, 2008 at 4:27 pm
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gtfo my gameriot Ashlie

btw hows stuff.
Favara
Favara Oct 5, 2008 at 3:06 pm
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Didn't Orz lose horribly in a mirror match against Nihilum Plasma?
Daray
Daray Oct 5, 2008 at 3:10 pm
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BEASTWOOD
BEASTWOOD Oct 5, 2008 at 3:10 pm
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3-2 with fnatic having standin (and that whole DC thing where fnatic had a clear advantage in the final game then got rng'd hard in the replay)

We've seen the Asian teams once
And arguably Europe's best team got slaughtered yesterday by a US team they counter
nzgs
nzgs Oct 5, 2008 at 3:34 pm
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I seem to remember SK europe humiliating fnatic as RMP. So yeah, they are ordinary on international standards. Nihilum plasma and cake are both better teams, SK.eu are better, and x6 are about equal but without the luxury of an OP comp. Those are just the euro teams who can get to the usa.
VidAll
VidAll Oct 5, 2008 at 3:42 pm
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Didn't nihilum plasma beat fnatic 3-0 before the 3-2 game? I seem to remember they did.

Oh and btw, the only time European teams have lost a tournament against the US was when Nihilum showed up to their first MLG against like 22 NA teams.
nzgs
nzgs Oct 5, 2008 at 3:46 pm
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Yeah that's right, and in that MLG cake beat the eventual winners (EG?) against a countercomp in the UB final. I think asia is slightly better than eu but there's no question that the USA is clearly inferior.
ashlie
ashlie Oct 5, 2008 at 3:57 pm
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This discussion is about as cool as Swarm raging on live internet TV. Awesome. Hardly matters who's the better country, it's who's the better team. My fav's atm are GGE and Sk.EU.
BEASTWOOD
BEASTWOOD Oct 5, 2008 at 4:04 pm
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There's only been 5 total events so far with both EU & US teams attending.

MLG San Diego: US
WWI Paris: Neither, Asia
ESL Germany: EU
CGS: EU, though this tournament was practically a joke. HPD beats RMP nice.
ESL LA: Undecided yet. But so far "lesser" US teams like GGE and Pandemic's 2nd squad are showing they are easily just as good as EU's best 2 teams, Nihilum Plasma getting outskilled horribly twice so far.
kavekk
kavekk Oct 5, 2008 at 6:20 pm
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MLG SD was a joke, too. One EU team playing one easily countered setup.
nzgs
nzgs Oct 5, 2008 at 9:28 pm
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Rubbish, anyone who thinks the american teams are as good is clearly deluded or just very nationalist, as most americans are. MLG SD was a joke, and cake squad should have won it after making the 22 american teams look poor. WWI, americans teams ALL went out of the UB early, it was a euro vs asia competition. In every tournament since, EU has had fewer teams than the usa and more success. It is a nobrainer.

Why was it so easy for americans to claim #1 status during WSVG, when no one else even paricipated... yet when they are trounced in successive tournaments we have to put up with this ****? Just get real, they aren't good. The difference between Orz and nihilum is that nihilum don't have a weak player. If orz replace hafu then yes they will be one of the best in the world and maybe better than nihilum.
BEASTWOOD
BEASTWOOD Oct 5, 2008 at 10:16 pm
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Apparently ESL Germany was a joke also then as there were heaps of garbage EU teams there with 1-2 US teams. Same situation as MLG SD, but hey why not be as biased as you can in every post. As for WWI, aside from x6 don't pretend EU did so great either. Not to mention the American teams invited were trash and invited based on WSVG performance ages ago yet still managed a 3rd.

If EU teams are magically on a higher level, explain: Nihilum Plasma losing 2 series to a GGE (RMD LOL), Pandemic's #2 squad taking x6 to the last map twice, EG taking down Nihilum Cake twice, fnatic with an alt warrior stand-in beating an assortment of EU teams like x6tence, mouz, mTw, aAa, etc? You're an idiot if you think there's any real difference in skill between US and EU teams, and that's 1 country vs multiple.
ashlie
ashlie Oct 6, 2008 at 4:13 pm
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SK.eu had my vote for the win. It's a shame they couldn't make it.
Danzail
Danzail Oct 6, 2008 at 9:27 pm
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"You're an idiot if you think there's any real difference in skill between US and EU teams, and that's 1 country vs multiple."

Population wise it's pretty similar, and the US has the advantage of everyone using the same language on all the BG's... not really an argument that will help you :)

WTB a proper tournament that all the fancied teams can make, alas they never seem to happen.
piny
piny Oct 8, 2008 at 4:14 am
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fk eu teams i bet asian teams could rape face tho
NUBBEY
NUBBEY Oct 5, 2008 at 2:48 pm
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congratulations fnatic

i think pandemic was also this dominant back in the day, though 
SKNeilyo
SKNeilyo Oct 5, 2008 at 2:49 pm
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Person: Big-nose, Quiet nerd, Average asian.

Player: Top Warrior, top Warlock, top Druid!

BUT

Grats
Dyzz
Dyzz Oct 5, 2008 at 2:50 pm
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Cause its hard to play a druid AMIRITE!?!?!
Thewirelive
Thewirelive Oct 5, 2008 at 2:57 pm
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cause every comp with a druid has won 2 MLG's in a row AMIRITE!?!?!
Score
Score Oct 5, 2008 at 3:04 pm
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Thewirelive
Thewirelive Oct 5, 2008 at 3:25 pm
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not as funny as you failing to detect it
Dyzz
Dyzz Oct 5, 2008 at 9:12 pm
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I think he detected it, and realized your comeback wasnt funny in the least.
Thewirelive
Thewirelive Oct 5, 2008 at 11:41 pm
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funny thing is I wasn't trying to be funny like you were, I was simply making fun of how stupid you are.
Thewirelive
Thewirelive Oct 6, 2008 at 7:16 am
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Snk
Snk Oct 5, 2008 at 2:51 pm
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watching hafu run around hugging everyone makes me wanna puke. She must not get enough attention around people when she's not looking better in comparison with nerds.
Favara
Favara Oct 5, 2008 at 3:07 pm
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You must not be around girls much, they all do that.
Snk
Snk Oct 5, 2008 at 3:13 pm
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favara

I don't know what kind of chicks you hang around, if any. However, if they run around hugging people every 5 sec they're prolly just as insecure/slutty/attention-craving as Hafu. The fact that you do hang around those kinds of "girls" makes you an instant looser.
kavekk
kavekk Oct 5, 2008 at 3:15 pm
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Use of word "loser" (it has one o) = kid that's still in high school.

Called.
Snk
Snk Oct 5, 2008 at 3:18 pm
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You sure got me there. Please don't be so harsh in the future and refrain from making those personal attacks :(
Coonjobby
Coonjobby Oct 5, 2008 at 3:24 pm
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It's pretty much a girl thing, women simply crave attention/affection. News at 9 

"Along with the blackhole, the vag is the only other forever devouring concept in the universe"
E-CUNT
E-CUNT Oct 5, 2008 at 3:29 pm
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i blame that misspell on him being swedish
boosey
boosey Oct 5, 2008 at 8:13 pm
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Wrong, you obviously know no women at all snk
don't try and play it off, just cause you can't get any doesn't mean you have to be sour and angry.
Score
Score Oct 6, 2008 at 12:25 pm
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yesh i see the attempts to has sex with ze womens
Draconis
Draconis Oct 5, 2008 at 2:51 pm
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Top Warrior, top Warlock, period.
Menion
Menion Oct 5, 2008 at 3:19 pm
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Top Warrior, top Warlock, avg glad druid, bazillions of games played, overpowered comp, RNG, period.

This tournament was fun to watch only because of Gravitas and Pandemic, but gz Fnatic for macestunning and pillar humping your way to another win.
Menion
Menion Oct 5, 2008 at 3:20 pm
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Oh and I love it how people commend how skilled Rhaegyn and Glickz are when they deathcoil/intervene whoever switches to Hafu like it's a pro move.
wisdomcube
wisdomcube Oct 5, 2008 at 3:49 pm
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except rhaegyn intervened before the intercept
Menion
Menion Oct 5, 2008 at 4:56 pm
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yeah don't mean to take anything away from rhaegyn and glicks they are clearly top players, and hafu is also decent, but i was disappointed to see WLD at the top yet again..

ah well bring on death knights, druid nerfs, and mace stun removal in WOTLK!
Score
Score Oct 6, 2008 at 12:28 pm
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I really think the players won the match, not the fact they are playing WLD. True that WLD can be a bit boring to watch though.
Zigrig
Zigrig Oct 5, 2008 at 2:52 pm
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Jeldorah
Jeldorah Oct 5, 2008 at 2:54 pm
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This has been known for awhile. But there's still gonna be retards here who say "WELL LOL ITS WARRIOR/LOCK/DRUID SO EZ MODE ROFL ROFL, IF I RAN WLD I'D WIN EVERY SINGLE TOURNEY UNDEFEATED LOLOL"

Rhaegyn, Glickz, and Hafu are all some of the best players of their respective classes and beyond that, their teamwork is amazing. They know exactly when to peel, when to swap, when to use CDs, how to kite, etc. They put out so much more pressure than most other WLDs with a better awareness for swaps.
ashlie
ashlie Oct 5, 2008 at 3:25 pm
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like the DC intercept. The Fear roots. The Cyclone disarm. The list goes on, but nvm cos MACE STUN/IMP HS. Rad, huh?

Not saying they're bad, by no means cos they're obviously pretty good. Just, gravitas really deserved the win. Odds were stacked way up and they did play so well. The matches against Pandemic in particular were just so tense!
nzgs
nzgs Oct 5, 2008 at 3:36 pm
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allyn
allyn Oct 5, 2008 at 2:55 pm
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