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by Marnacleez, Level 23
Last updated at October 19, 2008, 4:15 pm
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Intel Extreme Masters has all but ended, and the content was juicy enough to cause indigestion - SKGaming taking the finals in a display of deft mastery, toppling Gravitas Gaming in an indescribably tight set of series. The unequivocal rage of Celex reared its leviathanic head and roared, filling the auditorium with a piercing shriek - not unlike that of a Nazgul. One can imagine that his heart has shattered into even more pieces than his Alienware laptop, the object representing his failure, the digital helm from which he navigated his ship - it was a rocky ride, and Gravitas broke and flounded upon the shoals. Swearing vengeance and howling with disdain for whatever callous gods damned him to the shadows of second place, he mightily obliterated his computer. It was delicious.
I won't go into details concerning the matches, one can easily find the dull, lifeless regurgitation of every minor technique on any number of blogs here; the sports-journalist approach has never been my forte. I am the herald for the small man, for the everyman, showering the feeble plebs with coins of gold in the form of words. It is for you I report, my gentle Gameriot readers, and I know you were all watching the tournament: what else is there to do on a Sunday afternoon? I was watching football, to be honest, and I only caught snippets of the stream during commercials; luckily I swiveled my gargantuan braincage just in time to catch the most impressive bout of nerdrage since Swarm and Serennia. The best part? I found it about a hundred fold more entertaining than the tournament itself, and I think most of you feel the same way.
Many of my entries have focused on the tourney bracket celebrities, and on our grotesque fascination with them. Partially it's envy, that much is clear; we'd all love to make bank playing World of Warcraft. Truthfully, the wages of the tournament players is blown incredibly out of proportion here on Gameriot, and I don't think one could support a family and live comfortably with being a Rogue as their primary source of income. Still, most of the players are around college age. Some of them are students, others have jobs, and the rest are just lazy, slacking gamers, and it's a fine thing to make money doing this. It's the American dream, isn't it? It must take some initial courage to shed the anonymity the internet offers and thrust yourself into the spotlight, to constant ridicule concerning your physical appearance (i.e. Noktyn) or your deranged mental state (i.e. Celex). And God forbid you're a girl - Gameriot is full of blogs almost entirely devoted to Hafu, who is really just your average-looking Mongol girl gamer. I suppose the yellow fever instantly boosts any Asian girl's sex appeal by at least two or three points, but it's still ridiculous.
In other news, the Bills beat the Chargers.
Now that one tournament has ended, what can we really do but wait for the next one? World of Warcraft is in a bad state right now; the latest patch was a travesty, and all of my guildmates who are constantly hounding achievements (while I painfully level my seventh character - and fifth warrior) boggle my mind. It's an opiate to divert attention from some serious problems looming on the horizon, namely class balance and the future of PvP in the Wrath of the Lich King. While people are running circles to explore Ashenvale and cook wolf gibblets, those who managed to secure a Beta spot are being curbstomped by Unholy Death Knights.
Some input from my old chum Desense, who currently has a level 80 Warrior on Beta: "Ret. Paladins are still OP. The upcoming changes won't make that big of a difference. Frost mages are simply insane, and Unholy Death Knights are the worst of them all. Those three classes are gods among the rest, and as a Warrior I'm lucky if I can beat anyone 1v1."
According to him, despite his 26,000 hitpoint pool his Warrior is still neutered without the aid of an omnipresent pocket healer. How many times has Blizzard grunted out fallacious statements concerning their desire to rid warriors of their need for a healer? Due to the mechanics of rage and gear scaling, endgame Warriors will always be inherently unbalanced. Until you reach the point in the game where your gear is perfect in every slot, you're lunchmeat. Regardless, to succeed in any facet you require the assistance of a devoted Druid or something along those lines. Right now I'm living in fear of leveling to 80 once WotLK is released. Over every rill and ridge I expect to see a Gnome frost mage lurking amidst the weeds and conjuring up an icy holocaust with which to freeze me into a solid Tauren cube and then shatter me into a thousand hairy fragments. The derisive, high-pitched Gnome cackle will forever haunt my dreams.
In all honesty, Blizzard deserves some credit in the balance department. When serious game-time rolls around (i.e. the next Arena season), I think they'll have a lot of things ironed out. People have already gone absolutely bat**** over Ret Paladins. The lasting problem, of course, is Death Knights. The amount of complaining will be far less, despite the fact that Unholy DKs are about 10x more OP than Ret Pallies. The reason: nearly everyone will be playing one, as an alt if not a new main. They will be an uncontained swarm. Once everyone and their mother is playing a Death Knight at level 80, Blizzard developers will strike the iron while it's hot: the inevitable nerf bat will fall. Then all but the most dedicated Death Knights will retreat to their former classes in defeat and disgrace, and gradually the class will be brought back up to par. That's how it was with Paladins and Shaman in the beginning of classic WoW; these things are all cyclical, people. The future is not so grim.

32 comments
Heldericht Oct 19, 2008 at 4:25 pm
+1 votes
"Ret. Paladins are still OP. The upcoming changes won't make that big of a difference. Frost mages are simply insane, and Unholy Death Knights are the worst of them all. Those three classes are gods among the rest, and as a Warrior I'm lucky if I can beat anyone 1v1."
News flash, the game isn't balanced around 1v1.
All this speculation is pointless once people get to 80 and everyone gets to gear/gem according to their playstyle, it'll be a more easier to tell what is imbalanced and what isn't. I have a beta account as well. And as a disc priest, I can assure you I do perfectly fine against all the other classes in terms of surviving their onslaught. And I can also tell you warriors with heals can absolutely destroy enemy teams in bgs and arenas.
BTW, well written article, except for the rampant cynicism.
News flash, the game isn't balanced around 1v1.
All this speculation is pointless once people get to 80 and everyone gets to gear/gem according to their playstyle, it'll be a more easier to tell what is imbalanced and what isn't. I have a beta account as well. And as a disc priest, I can assure you I do perfectly fine against all the other classes in terms of surviving their onslaught. And I can also tell you warriors with heals can absolutely destroy enemy teams in bgs and arenas.
BTW, well written article, except for the rampant cynicism.
Opet Oct 19, 2008 at 4:45 pm
+3 votes
News flash; 1v1 still happens, people still enjoy engaging in it, and the game would be better if it was balanced on both the 1v1 level as well as arena.
Heldericht Oct 19, 2008 at 5:01 pm
+1 votes
Look, I can come up with a 100 page report on the 'game would be better if...' topic. It doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks would make the game better.
The fact is, its blizzard's game and they have CLEARLY stated many times that the game is balanced around group play. 1v1 engagements are never factored into the balance equation, as a result certain classes will always be at a disadvantage in that situation.
Warriors are a prime example of this. They usually get dominated by most classes in a 1v1 situation since WoW came out. Its always been like that although over time it has improved (rank 1 frostbolt kiting forever a warrior at lvl 60 anyone?), but you stick a warrior in with a healer in arenas or bgs (you know, places where it really matters, as opposed to duelling outside IF/Org or random 1v1 world pvp) and they are one of the most dominant classes in PvP.
The fact is, its blizzard's game and they have CLEARLY stated many times that the game is balanced around group play. 1v1 engagements are never factored into the balance equation, as a result certain classes will always be at a disadvantage in that situation.
Warriors are a prime example of this. They usually get dominated by most classes in a 1v1 situation since WoW came out. Its always been like that although over time it has improved (rank 1 frostbolt kiting forever a warrior at lvl 60 anyone?), but you stick a warrior in with a healer in arenas or bgs (you know, places where it really matters, as opposed to duelling outside IF/Org or random 1v1 world pvp) and they are one of the most dominant classes in PvP.
Marnacleez Oct 19, 2008 at 8:46 pm
+1 votes
The balance argument is a pure fallacy and it has been since before the Burning Crusade. The fact that certain classes excel in 1v1 and others excel in group play is just a byproduct of Blizzard's lack of forethought. Warriors shine with healers because Warriors are tanks. That's just one of the pillars the game's "balance" is built upon. Warriors take damage and convert into their own damage, the Rage system has always been flawed on the principle that, if they change it whatsoever for PvP, it will inevitably destroy PvE. That's not a complaint per se, I love how Warriors are designed and I'll always play one; suffering when alone or undergeared only makes the eventual pinnacle that much sweeter. Once you have the gear and the healers, there is very little challenge in playing the class itself, aside from raw timing and rage conservation. It's far less technical than playing a Rogue or a Mage, and aside from missing key pummels (i.e. falling for pumpfakes), minor mistakes don't spell disaster the same way they do for a Healer.
My point is that things are going to get worse before they get better. It's always the same in the cycles of WoW. Different classes get the spotlight at different times. Warriors will probably suck balls until at least Deadly Gladiator gear.
My point is that things are going to get worse before they get better. It's always the same in the cycles of WoW. Different classes get the spotlight at different times. Warriors will probably suck balls until at least Deadly Gladiator gear.
Dominius Oct 19, 2008 at 9:11 pm
+1 votes
1v1 engagements are never factored into the balance equation, as a result certain classes will always be at a disadvantage in that situation.
Never?Â
I've allways used it as a factor.
Some cases it just isnt fair.
i.e Ret Pally vs Destro Lock in 3.0.....I WONDER WHO GONA WIN.
RetPally OP, Lock UP (underpowered) = FactorÂ
Never?Â
I've allways used it as a factor.
Some cases it just isnt fair.
i.e Ret Pally vs Destro Lock in 3.0.....I WONDER WHO GONA WIN.
RetPally OP, Lock UP (underpowered) = FactorÂ
Heldericht Oct 20, 2008 at 1:43 am
+1 votes
Are you slow?
It DOESN'T MATTER if YOU use it as a factor. No one gives a ****. Thats not how blizzard balances it, its all about group dynamics.
If a class can't beat another class 1v1 it doesn't mean ****, until that class cannot hold its own along with other classes in arenas (aka holy paladins pre-3.0, who sucked in just about all comps in 2s and 3s).
Get it right.
It DOESN'T MATTER if YOU use it as a factor. No one gives a ****. Thats not how blizzard balances it, its all about group dynamics.
If a class can't beat another class 1v1 it doesn't mean ****, until that class cannot hold its own along with other classes in arenas (aka holy paladins pre-3.0, who sucked in just about all comps in 2s and 3s).
Get it right.
Dominius Oct 20, 2008 at 4:15 am
+1 votes
"It DOESN'T MATTER if YOU use it as a factor. No one gives a ****."
you're speaking from your own perspective. Some Arena tunnled ***.
I do arena, I do BG's, but I ENJOY dueling the most, I've even gone to lengths of server xferring just to duel named people.
I'm a nobody; just another fanboy that likes video games, but there are still communities on servers that like to be the top-dog outside of Orgrimmar that no-one can beat (or IF).Â
so speaking from 2 perspectives hereÂ
"If a class can't beat another class 1v1 it doesn't mean ****"
doesn't mean ****......TO YOU cuz ur an arena tunneled ***
until that class cannot hold its own along with other classes in arenas (aka holy paladins pre-3.0, who sucked in just about all comps in 2s and 3s).
You got this part right, like how warriors are nothing without ther precious pocket healer, I dont know what i'de do if I couldnt run a double dps comp just cuz I needed a healer to use my class to full capacity.
all-in-all I agree? just dont dis on duelers man =\
Get it right.Â
Ai Ai Cptn
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you're speaking from your own perspective. Some Arena tunnled ***.
I do arena, I do BG's, but I ENJOY dueling the most, I've even gone to lengths of server xferring just to duel named people.
I'm a nobody; just another fanboy that likes video games, but there are still communities on servers that like to be the top-dog outside of Orgrimmar that no-one can beat (or IF).Â
so speaking from 2 perspectives hereÂ
"If a class can't beat another class 1v1 it doesn't mean ****"
doesn't mean ****......TO YOU cuz ur an arena tunneled ***
until that class cannot hold its own along with other classes in arenas (aka holy paladins pre-3.0, who sucked in just about all comps in 2s and 3s).
You got this part right, like how warriors are nothing without ther precious pocket healer, I dont know what i'de do if I couldnt run a double dps comp just cuz I needed a healer to use my class to full capacity.
all-in-all I agree? just dont dis on duelers man =\
Get it right.Â
Ai Ai Cptn
Â
timmy124 Oct 20, 2008 at 3:38 am
+1 votes
they only balance it around group play because balancing it around more than one thing is hard
marlo Oct 19, 2008 at 7:45 pm
+1 votes
You might want to lay off the big words a bit. After wikiing most of the big words it took me 7 hours to get through it. Now I'm a pretty smart guy so it will taking normal or semi-smart people probably over 9 hours to finish it at wich they might lose interest.
Besides that this is a very enjoyable blog and hope u keep posting friend.
Besides that this is a very enjoyable blog and hope u keep posting friend.
kznlol Oct 19, 2008 at 10:26 pm
+1 votes
if it took you 7 hours to get through it, no, you're not 'a pretty smart guy'
marlo Oct 20, 2008 at 12:59 pm
+1 votes
Don't think your smarter than me because you did 5-6 hours over it. You probably rushed through it while looking up half of the words you dont know.
So, yes, that makes me "a pretty smart guy".
So, yes, that makes me "a pretty smart guy".
Dominius Oct 19, 2008 at 9:03 pm
+1 votes
havnt seen a blog about hafu since mileynmandy, dont know wat ur on bout.
currntly the top topic for gameriot is 3.0 and ret**** (excluding the celex raging).
In all honesty, Blizzard deserves some credit in the balance department. When serious game-time rolls around (i.e. the next Arena season), I think they'll have a lot of things ironed out.
I think ther will be a dominant class make-up for every bracket and a dominant class/spec in general, and ofcourse its counter, what's **** is that some have more/less counters than others, and thers not much they can do about that.
Like ther allways has been.
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currntly the top topic for gameriot is 3.0 and ret**** (excluding the celex raging).
In all honesty, Blizzard deserves some credit in the balance department. When serious game-time rolls around (i.e. the next Arena season), I think they'll have a lot of things ironed out.
I think ther will be a dominant class make-up for every bracket and a dominant class/spec in general, and ofcourse its counter, what's **** is that some have more/less counters than others, and thers not much they can do about that.
Like ther allways has been.
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Triadar Oct 20, 2008 at 2:50 am
+1 votes
Hmmm, you do sound a little bit like a ******. Don't try and justify your place as a blogger by using such smart language. Really it makes you sound like a ******.
On another note, it was a good blog, just ******y.Â
On another note, it was a good blog, just ******y.Â
Barnabas Oct 20, 2008 at 3:53 am
+1 votes
Meh Blizzard has worse issues than balancing this game around level 70 again. Issues like server stability, lag, actually having an instance available to get into, found arenas and many other assorted issues. Mostly important for you is to stop crying OP before you see what 80 is like. Chill for like 3 weeks and you'll see that things aren't like they are now.
Dominius Oct 20, 2008 at 4:20 am
+1 votes
played beta at 80, things didnt change.
Rets still crazy, mages will fk u up, and DK's are going to make u wish u neva played
Rets still crazy, mages will fk u up, and DK's are going to make u wish u neva played
Barnabas Oct 20, 2008 at 5:41 am
+1 votes
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW my class isn't OP and I can't play anything else but this violin.
The idle musings of Marnacleez the Mighty, who is perhaps best known for molding the very World of Warcraft with his manly fists.
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