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by outraged, Level 27
Last updated at February 25, 2008, 7:49 pm
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First entry, so a bit of introduction. I am from Moscow, Ru. I play
DotA and WoW arena a lot. Used to play Starcraft, then ROC and TFT at
local tourney level. Gaming for over - hmm - 17 years. Kinda old.
We all know that WoW lacks some basics of an e-sport level game.
1st, players dont have immediate access to somehow equal resources. I
mean, to have a 70 level char able to participate on arena at the very
least level, you need to spend ****loads of time leveling and then
gearing your char. Or buy it for money, but thats bad, you can be
banned for that and spend couple of weeks whining about how warriors
are imbalanced after.
We all know why somehow equal starting conditions are important, so lets continue.
Problem is WoW never was designed as a competitive PvP game. At launch
PvP was all about ganking (without any reward) then Honor was
introduced, and finally, Arena. But all those things were actually side
put in the game. It wasnt designed to be what it is at start.
And suddenly i've thought about Guild Wars - a game that was designed
to be a competitive e-sport level game. Ability to create a top level
character just slightly weaker then fully leveled is a gods bless.
First, your team can finally try different setups that might be best
for its playstyle, second, players can try out things before actually
spend loads of time.
So my thought was - why Blizzard wont do the same? allow people to
create a level 70 characters, but with some restrictions. Those
restrictions should help separating those fully grown from
"pregenerated". One of this restriction might be - unable to enter ANY
instance.
This is it, we just separated those who wants to spend 2-3 hours per
day having fun with friends on arena and those who want to play a
MMORPG. we also gave opportunity those last ones to experience PvP from
different angles.
But personally i doubt it will ever happen. difference between
Guildwars and WoW is that first is subscription free and second is not.
So Blizz management thinks (thats my assumption of course) that forcing
people to spend more time leveling actually forcing them to pay for the
game for a longer period of time.
I doubt it strongly. My professional experience (PR and project
management) tells me that right now the company that gives most
services to their customers wins.

10 comments
Maldazzar Feb 25, 2008 at 8:09 pm
+2 votes
"My professional experience (PR and project management) tells me that right now the company that gives most services to their customers wins. "
Not to question your professional experience, but you are aware that WoW is a little bit more popular than Guild Wars, right? The "winner" in this case is pretty clear.
Not to question your professional experience, but you are aware that WoW is a little bit more popular than Guild Wars, right? The "winner" in this case is pretty clear.
Grimeth Feb 25, 2008 at 8:22 pm
+1 votes
Lol, your comment made me laugh pretty hard.
Has Guild Wars even had competitive tournaments? I played it for like a week before stopping.
Has Guild Wars even had competitive tournaments? I played it for like a week before stopping.
click Feb 25, 2008 at 8:39 pm
+1 votes
"Has Guild Wars even had competitive tournaments?"
Yes, lots of them. Pretty sure they still do. Not disputing WoW vs. GW just answering your question.
Yes, lots of them. Pretty sure they still do. Not disputing WoW vs. GW just answering your question.
outraged Feb 25, 2008 at 8:47 pm
+1 votes
Mald, do you actually realize that blizzard wins because WoW offers WAY more services then Guild Wars? In fact, WoW is so popular just because it is unmatched in terms of services offering, on the market.
My point was that Blizzard can loose its 1st place because some company will give their customers more quality services.
I dont say it will, but it is possible.
My point was that Blizzard can loose its 1st place because some company will give their customers more quality services.
I dont say it will, but it is possible.
wsvg Feb 25, 2008 at 8:52 pm
+1 votes
Isn't Blizzard starting to do that now? In the upcoming 3v3 tourney you pay a fee and gain access to premade characters of any class or race.
I think this tournament will be a building block for things to come, by no means will it be perfect however it'll show them how much interest is there, etc...
I personally don't think they'll ever offer premades on live servers, but I can see these "special realms" becoming the norm for serious arena players.
I think this tournament will be a building block for things to come, by no means will it be perfect however it'll show them how much interest is there, etc...
I personally don't think they'll ever offer premades on live servers, but I can see these "special realms" becoming the norm for serious arena players.
outraged Feb 25, 2008 at 8:55 pm
+1 votes
yeah, i like the idea, really.
funny thing is that i even have 2 friends who might be interested in renewing accounts (they both dropped after s1 ends, got bored) and play with me.
problem is, we wont do that because we understand that we need at least 3-4 weeks of practice before we can actually participate on a serious level. and wasting money and time just to try it out - thats not my idea really.
so you might be right, they are moving in to the right direction. may be i will give them some ideas hehe.
funny thing is that i even have 2 friends who might be interested in renewing accounts (they both dropped after s1 ends, got bored) and play with me.
problem is, we wont do that because we understand that we need at least 3-4 weeks of practice before we can actually participate on a serious level. and wasting money and time just to try it out - thats not my idea really.
so you might be right, they are moving in to the right direction. may be i will give them some ideas hehe.
wsvg Feb 25, 2008 at 9:00 pm
+1 votes
Well the way they're running the tournament as I understand it, you get 2 weeks of practice on their servers then ratings are reset and 4 weeks of competitive play then it repeats. So if you're out of practice you might be ready when the second round of qualifying comes up. :P
outraged Feb 25, 2008 at 9:08 pm
+1 votes
ok, i am gonna study it now
because if its the way you say we might even have some fun at least.
thanks!
thanks!
oxxo Feb 25, 2008 at 11:27 pm
+1 votes
"My professional experience (PR and project
management) tells me that right now the company that gives most
services to their customers wins."
This is what people always say who have no idea what they are talking about. "My PhDs in EE and CS tells me that..." etc. etc.
management) tells me that right now the company that gives most
services to their customers wins."
This is what people always say who have no idea what they are talking about. "My PhDs in EE and CS tells me that..." etc. etc.
outraged Feb 26, 2008 at 12:08 am
+1 votes
now how did you know...
ps
its not only my prof experience, its a well known fact. and even more, it IS pretty obvious.
ps
its not only my prof experience, its a well known fact. and even more, it IS pretty obvious.
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