WotLK Talent Trees Leaked! (Includes Death Knights, Druids, Mages, Priests, Warlocks, and Warriors)

eh warrior one looks alright

 

Meh, thought maybe you had a new updated version that didn't say XX everywhere.  But I still love the new shadow priest talents.

 

Wow, this was all leaked almost a week ago. Personally, I've already started rolling a warlock for the new 51 point destruction with Soul Link idea. The possibilities for Decimate are endless, especially since it doesn't specify a damage spell. Instant fears through immunities, decimated pet summons, etc. It all depends on the cooldown.

Also worth noting is that I may have to bring my shadow priest out of retirement. Tch.

 

Yea these were out about a weak ago give or take, thats why I said it might be old to some still.
I was talking to a friend about some of this today over vent when I realized he had no idea what I was talking about.  I figured then that I might as well post it for the people that don't know.

And yes, I never considered that possibility of decimating fears and pet summons.  I really can't wait to see how this will work!

 

Sadly Decimate only currently works with Shadowbolt, Incinerate, and Soul Fire according to those with the Alpha client at the moment.  They might change it, but as it stands it's an instant soul fire that can't be stopped.  Certainly insanely powerful.

Personally, as a Warlock veteran of 3 years, I'm just glad that soul link can be grabbed by any spec in Wotlk.  Affliction and Destruction are both very fun trees but were crippled by the lack of survivability.  Additionally the new Demon Armor with high +armor and +30% healing is going to be a big boost as well to lock survivability... not even counting in being able to teleport and such with Demonic Circle.

 

sweet, making scarab brooch a priest talent (somewhat)

 

wtb rogue trees.

 

The imp imp talent combined with decimate could be insane.  Instant crit soulfire.

 

Too bad imps get 1 shot by ANYTHING if they ever pop out of phase shift. Improved imp will only be useful in pve, ever.

 

True, though it could be fun in battlegrounds.

 

Ah one more thing that I failed to notice initially since it's some obscene hour here... you can't get Empowered Imp and Decimate in the same build, not enough points.  Regardless though their changes to Demonology are absolutely what the tree has needed for ages, and if they let it stand it should give Warlocks the ability to survive the Melee thrashing that will be 200 dps 2 handers dual wielded by Fury Warriors and unstoppable insta-gibbing Rogues... not that I have anything against those classes, I play them as well myself, but I'm all for a fair fight.  Training one class b/c it has no outs is just boring and leads people to play alts (myself).  Thanks!

 

Thanks Notwow, I wasn't understanding what they were saying until you mentioned "Empowered Imp".

 

Feral druid talents seem pretty OP imo

 

Looks amazing tbh, feral charging kitties with Adrenaline Rush and Beast Within....

 

its so predictable too, considering thats what druids have been QQ'ing about, their off spec, and the dev's spoil the **** out of druids.  the dev bias is really retarded at this point.  im betting pally's, hunters, etc. stay shafted because no dev plays them still...that honestly seems to be what it all comes down to.  From Kalgan rolling a Mage and them shortly after getting buffs, its just rretarded **** like this that makes you think they are a joke :P

 

So basically you are upset because a previously unplayable spec become (most likely) playable in arenas at highest level?  It's not like you can be Feral AND Resto at the same time and dominate all, you have to choose, and giving something good to a NOT annoying tree is only good for the game, healers that never need to cast and are insanely mobile will always be the most annoying thing in the entire game.  Feral druids can be as powerful as they want, at worst they will be a different kind of rogue, which is possible to play again, Resto druids however have single handedly ruined arenas for a LOT of people and anything that draws attention away from them is good imo.

 

the thing is you can say this about so many other classes that needed even 1 viable tree. that is the big joke in all this like i just stated, its based on what the dev's play almost completely. they dont try out your class or dont regularly play it, then expect no love/attention to be paid. see pally/hunters. mages barely get any love but thats probably because they only amount to kalgans alt when hes not playing his warrior ;p

druids have someone in the dev circle that really pushes hard for them. i'm pretty sure they get posts from him on their class forum, which no other class forums really get direct feedback from any dev. its just the whole idea of playing favorites when they are supposed to be above that is the big joke i'm talking about. I swear some classes are constantly being pampered and baby'd, while others are left on other peoples doorsteps. Be happy druids you've got someone up there that plays/loves your class, but like i said the Dev's approach to balance/classes altogether is a big joke.

All this PHD talk, or how they track trends is so laughable because they sure as hell dont seem to do much with that info.  Its almost kind of funny that Kalgan was tracked on his Mage as Arc/Fire spec if i remember right, prior to Arc/Fire mage buffs, which really reinforces the truth in all of this.

 

You should consider playing another game, that is all.

 

well i'm just calling a spade a spade.  Either you can handle the criticisms or you cant.  You dont have to read what i write.  Cover your ears, close your eyes, pretend they are perfect w/ their PHD's and balancing around all this data that us as players dont really know about.  But honestly when so many players think balance is constantly awful, which it has been, you have to question the establishment and their methods. 

i guess your solution for criticizing Bush is moving to another country?

 

Wow dude, a little volatile there... first of all, your first point (that they spoil druids) has largely been true since TBC came out, they really have spoiled them, but only one spec, and probably not even the one that most druids rolled the class to play.  But since that first point you have basically gone on a wild tangent about how Blizzard is out to get us and sucks at making games.  You know there are lots of times when I get frustrated with design decisions they make such as even allowing resto druids to become so obnoxious (just cut back an instant heal or two of theirs or the % of healing and we're good right?)... but I'm not sure why you even still play the game if you are this bitter.  Trust me, I've been where you are and seen friends there too, best thing is to just quit for a LONG time and come back when you don't hate everything Blizzard does.  Why give them your money and waste everyone's time whining if you don't even enjoy the game?  And despite any response you do make about "I love the game I just hate how Blizzard stole my wife and the CIA is out to get me" it's pretty obvious you are burnt out.

And just for your information I think I will cover my ears when it comes to your posts, they tend to be the same thing over and over "QQ Blizzard sucks at making games but I still fork over hundreds of dollars of my money and more importantly my time so that I can waste my life whining about a broken spec". 

And your analogy failed so incredibly hard it's not even funny.

 

lol i dont get people like you.  Its like you tell people to play another game if they have any complaints, thats why i made the analogy of if someone criticizes Bush, you'd be the type to tell them to move to another country....then you act like i'm being hostile?  thats not hostile, others have seen me be hostile here and trust me thats me being polite :P  you just cant expect everyone to be happy go lucky because youre that way.

idc if you dont read what i write, never asked your opinion in the first place.  I believe you responded to me, not me to you.  Even then you should preach your anti-criticize Blizz policy to everyone on Gameriot, i'm sure you'll be very busy telling everyone they should just quit WoW instead of voicing their complaints.

 

I'm not saying that you shouldn't have problems with Blizzard or some of the moronic stuff they do, reread my post.  What I'm saying is you are bordering on paranoid with the idea that they only have devs that play certain classes and everything else sucks.  Yes, Paladins needs some help in 2's and 3's.  Bottom line is prot will probably never be doable for arenas just like prot for warriors isn't, and Ret will only be good if they take away the stupid luck factor.  However on the Hunter and Shaman gripes I'm going to have to call BS like I do on most claims of classes sucking, the problem is largely with the average player in WoW just being horrid.  I'm NOT saying that getting a hunter to 2400 is cake, but it's certainly not impossible.  I think more than anything people just need to reroll or quit if they don't like their class.  You can sit and whine all day, and Blizzard will probably eventually listen as they have proven, but in the mean time you are literally wasting your life spamming Gameriot with posts about how horrible they are as developers.  Seems to me to make a lot more sense to just quit the game if you think that, but if you want to play a game where you think the developers are out to get you, then by all means do it.

To sum up my point, if Blizzard keeps buffing classes based on what the 1700 rated players can do with them then it would break the game for those who actually know how to play.  A decent analogy can be made with Warrior itemization, the low end (fresh 70's) of Warriors are free kills for everyone, but the top end is just incredibly op (as proven by arena statistics time and again, as well as by common sense).  How does Blizzard fix this?  You tell me lol.

 

It's an endless cycle of buffing the "underdogs". Once a class is underrepresented, it'll get buffed up the ass.

This holds true even for hunters, except hunters are still underrepresented after buffs.
The reasons for this? I don't understand either, lol.

 

Jesus christ.  This **** sounds totally made up.

"Chaos damage"? 

Honestly I see as WotlK really fcking the game up.  They are not implementing a new class properly (not saying the deathknight isn't balanced, but the WAY they are introducing it to the game level 50, not changing raid size etc all seem bad).

 

There are always people making comments like this before the game gets better and expands (lots actually, so don't feel alone, and this isn't a criticism of what you said really)... it's just the way of things.  Think about it, if all they did to wow was add some new healing spells, damage spells, and a bunch of new bosses that did the same stuff as previous ones then people would be as bored 2 weeks after the expansion as they are now.  What Blizzard is trying to do with Wotlk is further popularize weaker classes or weaker talent trees by giving them some real power, additionally they are shaking things up as they always do to make the game fun again.  Personally the crazier they make it the better imo, at least then the game might not feel 4 years old lol.

The new talents answer Shadow priests problems, Warlock problems, Fury warriors problems (possibly making them viable in arenas is good yes?), Feral and Balance druid problems, etc etc... and thankfully the new MS warrior abilities are lacking since they don't need any more buffs beyond highest mobility, highest mitigation, highest hp, highest damage, and best debuff....

 

no shaman cool

 

Cool and creative ideas for all classes,althought there are talents that were thought up in 5mins like Warriors 5% strenght 5% stam,and some talents need a bit reworking.

Warrior
I liked the PVP buffing on prot tree,and generally some new abilities have uniqueness,Talents like Furious Resolve,Intensify Rage and Bull Rush,Unrelenting assault are pretty weak i think for their position in the trees.

Mage
Arcane tree still needs some love,i dont get what blizzard is trying to do here,buff the trademark ability of the tree plz,ARCANE MISSiLES!!

Deathknight
I wonder how the Unholy -spell dmg Deathknight will work and whats its purposes,Pve Solo?,i fear Blizzard will **** it up once again as they did with Palaz.