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by Roma Victor, Level 49
Last updated at August 12, 2009, 12:52 pm

Yesterday WoW arena players were greeted with two rather large pronouncements by GCHitler:
1) Arena season 6 is due to end in two weeks on August 25; and
2) The paladin prot/holy spec is going to be given the recent lolret treatment.


Before I talk (and QQ) about #2, I just want to take a minute to reflect on how much fun I had in S6.  For me, this was my most successful season ever and not coincidentally the most fun.  It's too bad it's finally concluding but like all good things it must come to an eventual end.  The only question I had since my last post was: was earning shoulders a fluke or am I really that skilled? Well, patch 3.2 hit live and suddenly my skill shot up to new heights.  I want to state upfront this was 100% due to my diligent improvement at arena and not the sick buffs holyprot got in 3.2.

After earning my shoulders two weeks ago, we went 10-1 up to 2163 last week.  Comps that used to give me serious challenges got wrecked without too much difficulty.  With the removal of the 2's bracket (and lolret/lolholy/lolprotholy nerfs) this is likely my last chance to lord it over priest/rogue, mage/rogue and priest/mage, those filthy, filthy ******.  So I definitely want to enjoy it while it lasts.  I also remember when lolret comps (esp. lolret/rogue) were extremely dangerous.  Now I can ignore the lolret as if he were a noncombat pet because, well, they essentially are noncombat pets now.  And my decision this season to stick with holy looks positively prescient.  Basically I have two weeks to see how high we can go. According to AJ I'm well within duelist range already - dare I aim for higher?


A potential FURIOUS DUELIST with his lolret noncombat pet.

The Rise and Fall of LolProtHoly
It's a measure of just how awful deep holy is for PVP that in S5 many pallies went holy/ret and then, after that was gutted, they chose prot/holy for S6.  Deep holy, despite being godawful in 2's, received more nerfs in 3.2 while prot/holy got buffed.  Ah, but you say, 2's doesn't matter anymore!  And that's true, but then that begs the question: why nerf prot/holy since its primary dominance is also in 2's?  The most obvious answer is that Kalgan's mage/rogue team that he plays with his girlfriend got rolled one too many times by a prot/holy paladin, leading to the following conversation:
Kalgan's GF : WTF!?! Hon, that healer pally didn't die inside of a counterspell like the rest! Nerf plox!
Kalgan : Yeah, that was total bs.  Still, 2's won't matter next season so who cares.
Kalgan's GF (eyes narrowed) : Unless you no longer want to do 2's with me, in bed or arena, I suggest you think again.
Kalgan (frantic) : Hey, hey! No need to get nasty!  Lemme call G-dawg.
*Kalgan picks up the phone*
Kalgan : What up, G-dawg! Remember when you said prot/holy was a creative use of game mechanics? Well, we, er, I decided you were wrong. Please give prot/holy the lolret treatment.
GCHitler (with great deference) :  Your word is as law, milord. It shall be done. Shall I hotfix in the nerfs?
Kalgan (whispering furtively ): Nah, it's only for 2's.  Just don't tell She Who Must Not Be Named.
GCHitler : I shall see to it personally, milord.

As for me, my favorite spec was and remains holy/ret, even after the nerfs.  It was such a great balance between offense and defense - it felt like playing a priest, frankly.  Prot/holy is similar, but I think it's closer to playing a druid in that you're not killable and you don't go out of mana under normal circumstances (in 2's).  The prot buffs in 3.2 really put the spec over the top though.  I dueled a variety of classes/specs and most couldn't get me below 90% health.  A Naxx 25 geared rogue died with me at 90% and I never cast a heal.  I dueled a furious shoulders geared lolret and just stood there and he never got through sacred shield/holy shield.  For the first (and last) time I felt like I had solid defense as a non-druid, non-priest healer (no offense shaman).

Deep holy will be in big trouble again next patch, alas.  Even in 2's you can tunnelvision blow up that healer faster than any other.  A deep holy paladin in 2's is pretty much autowin for us (and everyone else) at this point.  Even if he survives the damage output, he's mana burning himself every time he holy shocks or tries to holy light through MS.  If unrelenting assault lands he goes down faster than paladin hero Zilea at ESL Germany.  It's hard to imagine any serious 3v3 team including a deep holy pally at this point - Blizzcon on 3.1 will probably be the last chance, albeit slim, for a paladin to compete for a 3v3 title.

Now if you'll excuse me I've got to get back to facerolling rogue teams while I still can.  In my next article I'd like to talk about the rise of PVP prot dps and how much fun it is to play (while it lasts).

P.S. @#$!! off, Chelsea, you wankers. Heh.

 

     
42 comments
TheReaper
TheReaper Aug 12, 2009 at 1:01 pm
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Vir
Vir Aug 12, 2009 at 1:12 pm
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PvP prot DPS got nerfed to all hell in 3.2 :(

I miss my 10k Shield of Righteousness crits.
Yiska
Yiska Aug 12, 2009 at 1:19 pm
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Yeah but than again, it's not that bad with bugged SoR :P
Vir
Vir Aug 12, 2009 at 1:48 pm
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Yiska said
Yeah but than again, it's not that bad with bugged SoR :P
They fixed it yesterday.
Yiska
Yiska Aug 12, 2009 at 1:49 pm
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Vir said
They fixed it yesterday.
Argh didn't play yet :((
CntCmE
CntCmE Aug 12, 2009 at 2:33 pm
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1k damage ever 6 seconds = 170 dps lost. can easily be regained by speccing 5+/x/x if you werent before or speccing righteus vengeance. also most rets just discovered the furious libram which is another nice dps gain.
Vir
Vir Aug 12, 2009 at 2:37 pm
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CntCmE said
1k damage ever 6 seconds = 170 dps lost. can easily be regained by speccing 5+/x/x if you werent before or speccing righteus vengeance. also most rets just discovered the furious libram which is another nice dps gain.
Huh?
CntCmE
CntCmE Aug 12, 2009 at 2:39 pm
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i was talking about the additional sor proc every judgement... my bad its 1k dmg over 7 secs which is even less of a dps loss
Vir
Vir Aug 12, 2009 at 2:45 pm
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CntCmE said
i was talking about the additional sor proc every judgement... my bad its 1k dmg over 7 secs which is even less of a dps loss
I was only getting like 770 extra (lol gear).  Still it was nice for burst in PvP.   I had my 5 in holy, I'm not putting 3 in RV though, those points are better in prot for PvP imo.
Yiska
Yiska Aug 12, 2009 at 2:54 pm
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Didn't play Ret. I play Prot/ret and you can't specc 5 into holy with that specc.
Roma Victor
Roma Victor Aug 12, 2009 at 6:51 pm
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Vir said
PvP prot DPS got nerfed to all hell in 3.2 :(

I miss my 10k Shield of Righteousness crits.
Got a 9800 raid buffed yesterday. :)  And I got a 10k avenger's in WSG yesterday w/ wings.  Talk about hella fun, feels way more OP than lolret.
Vir
Vir Aug 13, 2009 at 10:46 am
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Roma Victor said
Got a 9800 raid buffed yesterday. :)  And I got a 10k avenger's in WSG yesterday w/ wings.  Talk about hella fun, feels way more OP than lolret.
Yeah, it is a lot more fun, I was playing prot-ret up until 3.2.  I just got a shiny new 2h though so I'm enjoying lolret right now.

It's too bad Shield of Righteousness doesn't scale with AP rather than strength, my ret AP trinkets would be a lot more fun then.

Did you pick up the libram of obstruction and lavanthor's talisman?  I haven't gotten the talisman yet.
Roma Victor
Roma Victor Aug 14, 2009 at 8:43 am
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Did you pick up the libram of obstruction and lavanthor's talisman?  I haven't gotten the talisman yet

I use Corem's Lucky Coin, +111 SBV with +200 SBV on use (40 sec duration, 2 min cd, so it's up a LOT of the time).  I also use libram of obstruction.  I sit at 1735 SBV unbuffed, 1900ish with kings.  With those popped I hit the SBV soft cap of 2400 or so.  I'm in the process of gearing up with prot gear for now until I can get some PVP set pieces.  I have 100-0'd every class so far in BG's, which is pretty lulz.  Throw in 3 sec AE seal of mace stun and much fun is had by all.
Smokeee
Smokeee Aug 12, 2009 at 1:13 pm
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Every rating a pally has gotten since Wotlk has been a fluke. Subtract 200 pts to see where you'd be with any other class.
Yiska
Yiska Aug 12, 2009 at 1:20 pm
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Still higher than you, hrhr. You know I had to say it.<3
Flickz
Flickz Aug 12, 2009 at 1:28 pm
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elemental shaman/destro lock 2v2 HOLY****BALLS
Klynx
Klynx Aug 12, 2009 at 1:46 pm
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LOLPROTHOLY IS THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY.
Klynx
Klynx Aug 12, 2009 at 1:53 pm
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Oh yeah and also:  I think you were British in another life.
Roma Victor
Roma Victor Aug 12, 2009 at 6:51 pm
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Klynx said
LOLPROTHOLY IS THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY.
I miss holy/ret though.  STUN ME WILL YOU!!?!?
Guidor
Guidor Aug 13, 2009 at 1:00 am
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You know, paladins getting out of stuns was never really all that OP. Druids can't be sheeped...or slowed....
Klynx
Klynx Aug 13, 2009 at 2:05 am
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Roma Victor said
I miss holy/ret though.  STUN ME WILL YOU!!?!?
Beacon of light in 3s is also crazy good against druid healer teams.  There are some cool things you can do with it like heal around corners and such.
Roma Victor
Roma Victor Aug 14, 2009 at 8:44 am
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Klynx said
Beacon of light in 3s is also crazy good against druid healer teams.  There are some cool things you can do with it like heal around corners and such.
I hope I don't have to heal in 3's, it makes me want to cry. DPSing in 3's is much fun, however.
tokeshlol
tokeshlol Aug 12, 2009 at 2:58 pm
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next step is gladiator, get to it broseph
Roma Victor
Roma Victor Aug 12, 2009 at 10:09 pm
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tokeshlol said
next step is gladiator, get to it broseph
2200 tonight. 350ish to go! Le sigh. Teach me to beat OP protholy + DK. Heh.
Klynx
Klynx Aug 17, 2009 at 4:19 pm
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Have your warrior spamstring the dk while sitting in Def stance and disarming him every cd/peeling constantly with no attempt at offensive pressure.  Then you just run around an LoS object and keep it up until the other team quits.
Theo
Theo Aug 12, 2009 at 4:58 pm
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lolrais
lolrais Aug 12, 2009 at 5:14 pm
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From what I read I didn't see ANY *****ing about RMP. What is this ****!?!??!
trousertrout
trousertrout Aug 12, 2009 at 8:09 pm
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Add more !?!?!??! for emphasis to get your point out.
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