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by raeli, Level 27
Last updated at April 24, 2009, 1:53 pm
SFIV just keeps getting bigger and better every single day. I swear it. At least it seems that way. This game seems to have singlehandedly pulled the formerly stagnated fighting game scene in the US and brought it into a limelight. Why, you might ask?

There was just an international exhibition between (in my opinion) the four best players at their characters in the world. Daigo was obviously more consistent than Poongko, but watch his matches and see the horrible aggro pressure he brings. On top of that, the US came close to taking it.

And of course, the biggest stages of them all in Fighting Games are coming up- Evolution (US, open) and Super Battle Opera (japan, invite only) which means.. those tournies are going to be really interesting this year.

On top of that, MLG is considering picking up SFIV for the pro circuit, or at least seems to be judging by their pretty avid support of the game at Meadowlands. Now there is a lot of back and forth on whether or not this is a good thing- but I see it as a way to generate hype, which can only be good. It can bring production values and television broadcast to the general neckbeard shakycam aspect of Street Fighter tournies.. (only two that don't have that problem are Evo.. which is like a 30 dollar per disc dvd or SBO.. which is also expensive, especially so out of Japan.)

On less of an e-sport note and more of general SFIV note, Championship Mode came out today.. seems pretty cool now, Netcode seems better but that could just be my opening matches since the school kiddies aren't home right now.

However, I just got a 5 bar connection Xbox Live. The first one I've even seen.

Get hype, yo.
     
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Furilol
Furilol Apr 24, 2009 at 2:03 pm unhide comment
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Nabukun
Nabukun Apr 24, 2009 at 2:08 pm
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On top of that, the US came close to taking it.

I don't know if I misread you, but Justin Wong took the title. His match with Daigo was just an exhibition.

I was really impressed by how Justin dealt with Iyo's Dhalsim. Once Justin got in Iyo couldn't do anything about it.

Poongko was really interesting to watch. Just straight up in-your-face rushdown with zero D.

Daigo was beast as always. Did you see him DP damn near all of Justin's low dive kicks? Physic as a mofo.
Grimeth
Grimeth Apr 24, 2009 at 10:48 pm
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Justin Wong took US nationals... people from korea/japan aren't part of us nats...
Nabukun
Nabukun Apr 25, 2009 at 2:03 am
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I think you're a little late bro. Justin took the US nationals more than a month ago. What was played recently was the final of the Gamestop tournament, which Justin won, and the SFIV world championship, which he won as well. He played against the Korean (Poongko) and Japanese (Iyo) champs. His match with Daigo was just an exhibition.
raeli
raeli Apr 26, 2009 at 8:22 pm
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uhh no, Justin won the US tourney and then played the japanese/korean champs in the same night.
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DeadLy Apr 24, 2009 at 2:10 pm
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raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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I'm playing Ken. Because everyone will underestimate me until they get kara thrown to death.
affix
affix Apr 24, 2009 at 2:15 pm
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I asked this question in another blog but didn't get a real answer:  If you're a REALLY casual fighting game fan, is this game worth buying for the online mode?  Or is it like being a casual starcraft player where you just get wrecked 95%+ of the time?

The game looks way fun, and if I get it I'll want to drop the money on one of the arcade sticks, but I don't want to do that if there's not a solid amount of mediocreish players for me to fight against, because I'll probably be pretty bad.
Gumbot
Gumbot Apr 24, 2009 at 2:20 pm
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there is a rating system in online play, like you get 15 pts in wow so  you can bestuck int he 1500s if you are bad.
Nabukun
Nabukun Apr 24, 2009 at 2:28 pm
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There are a lot of mediocre players online. If you put in a little effort you'll be beating most of the scrubs in no time.

The learning curve isn't very steep either. Plus since you're playing online you'll be sticking to the basics since the advanced stuff isn't really viable.
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 2:31 pm
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I'd recommend if it if you're willing to learn it. I can teach you if you're on the 360 side!

But anyway, yeah. It's definently worth picking up. I'm above average and there are plenty of players that stomp me, and plenty of players for me to stomp.

The new championship mode DLC simulates a tourney and improved the netcode, the whole thing is looking very polished right now.
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affix Apr 24, 2009 at 2:38 pm
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raeli said
I'd recommend if it if you're willing to learn it. I can teach you if you're on the 360 side!

But anyway, yeah. It's definently worth picking up. I'm above average and there are plenty of players that stomp me, and plenty of players for me to stomp.

The new championship mode DLC simulates a tourney and improved the netcode, the whole thing is looking very polished right now.
sweet, thanks guys.  i'll pick it up after work maybe.  which arcane stick would you recommend?  budget doesn't really matter, but if there's only a marginal improvement from like, a $60 stick to a $150 stick, i'd rather go with the cheaper one.
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 2:46 pm
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affix said
sweet, thanks guys.  i'll pick it up after work maybe.  which arcane stick would you recommend?  budget doesn't really matter, but if there's only a marginal improvement from like, a $60 stick to a $150 stick, i'd rather go with the cheaper one.
There are serious improvements with getting an expensive stick, but honestly you won't need one when just starting off. I recommend a Hori product. The FS3(PS3) or EX-2(X360), or if you have a little bit more cash to spend, the HRAP3(PS3) or HRAP EX (360).

Horis are reliable, get you used to playing stick, have a good comfortable layout etc.
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Ckean Apr 24, 2009 at 2:51 pm
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affix said
sweet, thanks guys.  i'll pick it up after work maybe.  which arcane stick would you recommend?  budget doesn't really matter, but if there's only a marginal improvement from like, a $60 stick to a $150 stick, i'd rather go with the cheaper one.
I'm very happy of my hrap3 for ps3, just modded it with sanwa button.
The defaut stick is a sanwa and is really good. Will
you  play on ps3 or 360?
affix
affix Apr 24, 2009 at 2:52 pm
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Ckean said
I'm very happy of my hrap3 for ps3, just modded it with sanwa button.
The defaut stick is a sanwa and is really good. Will
you  play on ps3 or 360?
360

edit:  can't find the HRAP EX online anywhere, any suggestions?  being resold on amazing/ebay for like $250, wtf
Ckean
Ckean Apr 24, 2009 at 2:57 pm
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affix said
360

edit:  can't find the HRAP EX online anywhere, any suggestions?  being resold on amazing/ebay for like $250, wtf
So i recommend you to go for the hori real arcade pro ex. Playing with a bad stick can be really frustrating. With this one you're near the quality of arcade cabinet. You can also mod it easily.
Ckean
Ckean Apr 24, 2009 at 3:02 pm
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affix said
360

edit:  can't find the HRAP EX online anywhere, any suggestions?  being resold on amazing/ebay for like $250, wtf
If you can't find the EX you can still go for a cheaper stick and mod it with sanwa or seimitsu part.
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 3:16 pm
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affix said
360

edit:  can't find the HRAP EX online anywhere, any suggestions?  being resold on amazing/ebay for like $250, wtf
Alright, if you can't find a HRAP.. I recommend going to all your local gamestops/gamecrazys/other video game specific stores and seeing if they have any of the Madkatz or Hori sticks in stock.

If they have the SE, that'll last you too and you can mod it down the line with real arcade buttons/stick if you decide you like it.

If you haven't had practice on stick, and you want something good for SF and you can't find a stick, pick up a Madkatz fightpad. If there's anything wrong with it (stiff/not working diags) then take it back pronto, but if your Madkatz stick/controller works out of the box and stays working it will serve you well for a while. If you still can't either of thoes options, hit me up on AIM (raeliraedirgue)

gl!
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Saithe Apr 24, 2009 at 4:56 pm
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I'm curious what modding exactly does for a stick? I'm guessing you can't do anything that will give you short cuts to pull of some moves, such as supers for casual play can you? Maybe it's because i've been playing with a 360 controller, but pulling stuff feels very inconsistent.
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Adiara Apr 24, 2009 at 10:16 pm
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register here and look here http://forums.shoryuken.com/forumdisplay.php?f=226

also you can buy a custom stick from china for about ~$150us that will have full sanwa [top tier] parts and ****. people's experiences with that are in the tech forum on srk 

the madcatz SE might be a better option ($120us shipped on ebay) than one of the horis solely because it's really easy to mod [hurrrr] so you have the flexibility to upgrade in the future
 
Adiara
Adiara Apr 24, 2009 at 2:38 pm
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i've never attempted to play any fighting game beyond button mashing before sf4. i've found it easy to get into and rewarding. 
Publicity Stunt
Publicity Stunt Apr 24, 2009 at 5:50 pm
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affix said
I asked this question in another blog but didn't get a real answer:  If you're a REALLY casual fighting game fan, is this game worth buying for the online mode?  Or is it like being a casual starcraft player where you just get wrecked 95%+ of the time?

The game looks way fun, and if I get it I'll want to drop the money on one of the arcade sticks, but I don't want to do that if there's not a solid amount of mediocreish players for me to fight against, because I'll probably be pretty bad.
sorry affix, SF4 doesn't support mods, guess you're out of luck
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Grimeth Apr 24, 2009 at 10:51 pm
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Just to add, it's a preference on sticks as well.  Sanwa is the typical and most popular high quality japanese style brand.

That means it's those short ball sticks you see at asian arcades with the light convex tap buttons.

If you're used to the bat sticks at your local arcades, you will not like the hraps or all the joysticks that everyone is recommending.
Paperkat
Paperkat Apr 27, 2009 at 5:31 pm
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if youre gonna play online u have to create your own game cuz the latency is ******* unbearable. impossible to land some combos most of the time lol
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 2:33 pm
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I also posted this in the wrong blog, damnit.
Ckean
Ckean Apr 24, 2009 at 2:34 pm
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yes it's totally different from starcraft or quake. You can have fun no
matter what your level is, and the learning curve is less painfull
compare to starcraft.
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 2:35 pm
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"the learning curve is less painfull compare to starcraft."

I dunno if I'd say that.
Ckean
Ckean Apr 24, 2009 at 2:45 pm
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well, yes some 1frame links can be really annoying, specially online, and even basic stuff like fadc can be hard for a beginner, but unlike quake or starcraft, after a week of training and learning, you don't get wrecked like on starcraft battle net or on quake live where you only fight people who played the game for 15years.
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 2:47 pm
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online play may be easier, but remember with sfiv you're fighting against people who have been playing street fighter for 20 or more years. if you ever want to go to tourneys or even have serious online play.. yeah.
Adiara
Adiara Apr 24, 2009 at 2:38 pm
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I'm getting my TE stick tomorrow!!! So ******* excited
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 2:44 pm
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grats homie. i skipped the TE to get a SE, then a custom. i'll be posting a pic here when it's done.
Adiara
Adiara Apr 24, 2009 at 2:50 pm
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can you tell me why SRK is such a giant circlejerk of retards repping each other and ****ting on "09ers"? 

i mean there's a lot of good content there and the newbies do post some dumb ****

but it's really a bit much 
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 2:51 pm
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It's because 09ers are constantly making stupid posts, not reading stickies, etc etc and basically ****ting up the forum harder than moderators can handle.

Not all of them, but a vast majority are.
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click Apr 24, 2009 at 3:30 pm
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It's kind of like WoWRiot or the official WoW forums. (they are pretty much the same imo);  For every 1 post that may be good you have about 10 thousand 4chan idiots trying to be funny or acting like they are good.
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Slapnuts Apr 24, 2009 at 5:08 pm
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The TE stick is fantastic.  I actually thought about swapping in my octo-gate but I left the square in.  I did however swap out the ball top for a black bat top and I couldn't be happier.  Of course when anyone comes over one of the first things they as is, what the hell is that as it sits right by my door on top of my subwoofer. 

I proceed to tell them that it is pretty much the best arcade stick I have ever used and that I only had to pay for half of it =p
Furilol
Furilol Apr 24, 2009 at 2:40 pm
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btw did anyone get these on video ? youtube fails to provide them
BLiTZ
BLiTZ Apr 24, 2009 at 3:04 pm
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To be honest, I wouldn't count on MLG picking the game up.  Next season they'll most definitely want to pick up Modern Warfare 2 for live events, which makes 4 big games at a live event.  Unless they make a big expansion (aka renting out MULTIPLE rooms as big as their current ones, which is a potentially dumb use of money) I wouldn't really hold your breath for SFIV :/  It's a shame fighting games don't get more attention, but it's really not MLG's fault.
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 3:18 pm
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You never know, man, you never know. SFIV is picking up steam while Gears and 3 are slowly dying. We'll have to see how the 2010 lineup looks, if they do it right then there'll be much awesome.
BLiTZ
BLiTZ Apr 24, 2009 at 4:16 pm
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Lol, go to an event if you think H3 is slowly dying.  MLG just extended the number of teams for H3 and passes STILL sold out ridiculously fast.  There's tons of teams that would go if the cap was raised and there was more space to host a bigger tournament.  Gears I don't really follow too much but considering this is Gears 2's FIRST year I don't know how it could really be slowly dying. 

It would be nice to see SFIV on the lineup, but you have to realize that there really isn't a strong enough SF MLG community to give it to the push it needs to get on the lineup.  If Modern Warfare 2 wasn't coming out at the event of the year, I'd probably say there's a fair chance, honestly.
Godsmak
Godsmak Apr 24, 2009 at 3:22 pm
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Godsmak
Godsmak Apr 24, 2009 at 4:02 pm
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I immediately closed my tab when I saw the anime characters. Thanks for that fail, nerd.
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 4:16 pm
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says the guy who faps to UFC?
Godsmak
Godsmak Apr 24, 2009 at 4:29 pm
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raeli said
says the guy who faps to UFC?
Get trolled.
raeli
raeli Apr 24, 2009 at 4:32 pm
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Godsmak said
Get trolled.
Oh, it was such a brilliant troll!

Please, you've done the same **** since the beginning trollriot first started up. MAKE STUPID POST. Get called out on it. GET TROLLED!

You're a joke, Godsmak. And named after a ****ty band.
Godsmak
Godsmak Apr 24, 2009 at 4:39 pm
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raeli said
Oh, it was such a brilliant troll!

Please, you've done the same **** since the beginning trollriot first started up. MAKE STUPID POST. Get called out on it. GET TROLLED!

You're a joke, Godsmak. And named after a ****ty band.
LOL get worked up over it girly man. If you can't see how the UFC Game > SF4 is a troll then you are just another braindead moron here on trollriot. How do you compare 2 completely differen't fighting games anyways? Get. *******. Trolled. Idiot.

P.S. How can you even bash my "name" when your "name" is 'raeli'? How dumb are you girly man? Oh and Godsmack is the name of that has-been metal band, not Godsmak.

-The Champ
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GibTehStix Apr 24, 2009 at 5:02 pm
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It is a nice song. You are the one missing out Godsmak.

Also, I think that SF4 is the better of the games, even though I have never played a UFC game. My reasoning is that I can do all of those submissions IRL, but as hard as I try I will never be able to do a hadouken IRL.
Godsmak
Godsmak Apr 24, 2009 at 5:22 pm
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GibTehStix said
It is a nice song. You are the one missing out Godsmak.

Also, I think that SF4 is the better of the games, even though I have never played a UFC game. My reasoning is that I can do all of those submissions IRL, but as hard as I try I will never be able to do a hadouken IRL.
Yes I am sure you know many submissions.

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