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by Ming, Level 68
Last updated at August 22, 2009, 9:24 am
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After watching TSG beating Tugget/Brewkz's DK/warrior/paladin on live, the famous warrior/paladin duo that played these classes together for six seasons prior to their divorce (a lot of it has to do with their frustration against TSG), I was convinced no one will ever beat TSG in a mirror and they proved it against X6. The TSG vs X6 mirror was probably the most enjoyable mirror I have ever watched in a tournament, and Zilea deserves an apology from his teammates, a drink at the bar from Veex the heart breaker, and a chance to play with them in 3.2 for his fake casts at under 500 health two games in a row to stay alive.
Prior to the tournament, Zilea predicted that X6/Shipit's DK/Hunter/Paladin will take out the great RMPs for TSG, hence giving them a clean path to the championship round and that is exactly what happened so far. X6 defeated HON, the Korean RMP powerhouse. While Shipit finally ended Realz and SK-US's 2009 winning streak in an epic 3-2 thriller. Shipit had a very hard time against the crappy Taiwanese DK/warrior/paladin as DK/hunter/paladin, how will they be able to handle the real deal in TSG? My money is definitely on TSG to advance to grand finals and they are the favorites to win it all with the way bracket is set now.
Everyone was surprised when HON went destruction warlock/hunter/paladin against X6's PHD, and boy their alliance RMP looked awful against X6's warrior/lock/druid in the fifth and final round (Koreans still can't figure out this comp it seems, just like last year). While they did beat DKP's DK/rogue/priest with ease, conventional wisdom says that a dual comp team without 100% confidence in RMP will not beat a pure RMP team who live and die by the sword. However Enforce/Pookz have never experienced the loser bracket before, how will they react to it now their aura of invincibility faded with the loss against Shipit? Not to mention the Koreans get way too much practice time with RMP mirrors, with an endless supply of elite RMPs. My heart says SK-US, but if I am betting my own money, I am betting it on HON because I believe the loss against Shipit will create doubt in their heart, and SK-US's last series loss was against Complexity, a vastly inferior RMP to HON.
X6 should beat Inflame's warrior/lock/druid with their triple plate cleave as they did at European regionals. And they should beat HON/Shipit as well before losing to TSG in the grand finals. However, after watching how close SK-US got against Shipit, if SK-US beat HON somehow, I am not sure if a multi-comp PHD can do the same thing against them. Shipit showed a lot of composure against SK-US's rushdown. You can downplay SK-US's accomplishments any way you like, but for them to make a video about druid killing strategies AND repeat it in their opening round against Woah (Kae: It would never happen to me!), to take Shipit the ultimate RMP killer to the fifth and final game in a 2v2, it is something no other RMP can duplicate, not even HON. Rushing down a druid of Kae's caliber looks easy (although he did make it easier with possibly too much time in caster form), but opening up all three players to burst away is the heart and soul of RMP, and extremely, extremely difficult at this level of competition.
Enjoy the games folks! See you in a couple of hours!
SK-Gaming (3) vs
Button Bashers (1)

SK-Gaming (W) vs 

Button Bashers - Ring of Valor

SK-Gaming vs 

Button Bashers (W) - Blade's Edge

SK-Gaming (W) vs 

Button Bashers - Ruins of Lordaeron

SK-Gaming (W) vs 

Button Bashers - Ruins of Lordaeron
x6tence (3) vs
Woah (0)

x6tence (W) vs 

Woah Bashers - Blade's Edge

x6tence (W) vs 

Woah Bashers - Ruins of Lordaeron

x6tence (W) vs 

Woah Bashers - Dalaran
x6tence (3) vs
SK-Gaming (1)

x6tence (W) vs 

SK-Gaming - Blade's Edge

x6tence (W) vs 

SK-Gaming - Blade's Edge

x6tence vs 

SK-Gaming (W) - Dalaran

x6tence (W) vs 

SK-Gaming - Ring of Valor
SK-US vs BB aka HON (Rogue/Mage/Priest vs Rogue/Mage/Priest): 3-1
Game 1 on Ring of Valor and Pookz/Orange did mage vs mage CCs on each other. BB went for the riskier strategy of priest kill on SK while Realz and company went for rogue kill instead. BB's burst attempts were stopped and their rogue dropped in a kidney shot. SK leading 1-0.
Game 2 on Blade's Edge and Enforcer was suckered into chasing the BB rogue, who kited away and stayed alive for a very long time, got out of LOS safely. BB clamped down on defense this game and eventually Enforcer ran out of CDs and got caught into a KS and killed. Instead of playing offense vs offense, I like what BB is doing as Enforcer seems to run out of gas about 1 minute into the game.
Incredible pressure from SK in game 3 on Ruins. Enforcer got the opener on BB rogue and pumped his damage into him from start to finish. BB was behind on momentum and forced to play defensively the entire game. The BB rogue stayed alive for as long as he could in center but BB priest was feared into improved CS and killed.
The passing of the torch! BB chose to go on Realz this game who did an incredible job at staying alive when Enforcer was put into a CC chain. Once Enforcer recovered he was able to slow down the BB rogue, and at that point he is just too behind on cooldowns to survive. Orange/Numberone were able to force a cross kill on Realz to drag it into a 2v2, but it didn't matter as Orange was out of mana/CDs and killed by mage/rogue with his priest sheeped.
SK-US takes the torch from the Koreans as the American RMP is now the undisputed number one RMP in the world! I have to say I was disappointed with HON's new rogue, who was caught by Enforcer most of the games and shut down from start to finish. Their old rogue DKer would have been able to put up a better fight. HON just doesn't have the same clean, crisp play they did before and I think practicing for their secondary anti-PHD comp really hurt their main team.
X6 vs Woah (Warrior/DK/Paladin vs Warrior/Lock/Druid): 3-0
Woah had a nightmare of a time against X6 at European regionals with druid kills, and looks like Kae is in for another tough ride. First game on blade's edge, X6 played super aggressive, blade storm right off the bat and kept Woah on the defense the entire time. Inflame the lock had to CC, Ocelote the warrior had to stay in defensive mode and X6 just went for a quick swap to score a kill on druid. X6 up 1-0.
Game 2 on Ruins, Woah came out super aggressive and tried to force a kill on X6 warrior, but X6 warrior just went into shield + defensive stance after he got off the blade storm. Inflame chose to stay in to force a kill, but he died before he could drop the X6 warrior who was picked back up by his paladin. X6 up 2-0.
The final game took place on Dalaran and X6 went blade storm + full pressure on Inflame. With freedom they had huge mobility edge, and a power swap on druid forced a kill around the boxes. Momentum is so important and X6 moves on to take on SK-US. Is their secondary PHD comp good enough to beat SK-US's rogue/mage/priest? We will find out!
X6 vs SK-US (DK/Hunter/Paladin vs Rogue/Mage/Priest): 3-1
Opening round on Ruins and SK-US did the usual quick rush on paladin but could not force the bubble as X6 opened the fight with full DPS pressure on Pookz to force block. Once the paladin healed back to full, X6 went back to priest and dropped Realz via BM. Seems like going on Pookz at start briefly really takes away his game, SK is in trouble if this persists. Apparently there was significant lag so they are taking a break to decide whether the score should be reset.
Looks like the score is reset but it doesn't matter. X6 death gripped Pookz right in and focused on him right away, pumping out so much damage middle bridge of Blade's Edge before dropping him after ice block wore off. Just so much damage and consistency from X6. Too hard for Enforcer to get a clean opener on this map through flare/DK aoe in mid-bridge.
Again the game took place on Blade's Edge as Enforcer was hit out of stealth mid-bridge. Big damage on him from start to finish, and he couldn't get to his target while stuck in frost trap. A ghoul stun finished him off as his evasion was stopped and DK/hunter bust took him out from 8K to zero in a global.
Superb play from SK as Enforcer was finally able to force the bubble on X6 paladin off the bat. However Pookz was taking damage the entire time and had to block at the same time. He was under a world of pain once he came out of block, but managed to stay alive long enough to drop the X6 DK. The game is a lot smoother for SK on Dalaran as Enforcer can actually get his opener on this map.
Wow, another technical difficulty and that last game was disqualified as well. RMP is all about momentum and I really don't think they can come back from this. 4 games into it and SK is down 0-2, can they pull off a miracle?
Seems like every single paladin die at least once against SK without bubbling. SK opened on DK at the start but did a sudden strong swap on paladin. X6 paladin was caught in a global and died, but Realz's priest went down shortly after, not before buying his rogue/mage enough time to take hunter very low and winning the 2v1 against DK. SK still down 1-2, it will be one of the greatest comebacks of all time if they pull this out.
There will be no miracle as the last map was on ring of valor. SK couldn't force bubble and X6 took advantage of the (lack of) LOS issues and pumped massive damage into Pookz. With no place to go after ice block, Pookz went down to BM and Realz suffers his first career tournament defeat without Serennia.
The road to a championship is clear for TSG and Zileas, as their triple plate cleave has the match-up advantage against both Shipit and X6. Can they capitalize? Can Zileas be the first paladin to ever win a REAL tournament (Sck and Pandemic won the WSVG China stop two years ago but it was not exactly against top competition)?
TSG vs Shipit (DK/Warrior/Paladin vs DK/Hunter/Paladin): 3-1
Great opening match on Blade's Edge as Shipit dumped damage into Zileas to force an earlier bubble than their own paladin and eventually dropped him first. However their own paladin died right after and DK/hunter could not beat DK/warrior as Veex stayed with shield + one hand to stay long enough to finish off the hunter, and TSG won the 2v1 fight. TSG up 1-0.
Game 2 was easier for TSG as Shipit went on Veex. Blade Storm + DK disease took both hunter and paladin low. Paladin had to bubble to heal, and came out of bubble at 50% health. Quick swap by TSG and they took a 2-0 lead.
Koreans pulled out destruction warlock/survival hunter/paladin, this must be the Korean special vs cleave teams. TSG could not put much pressure into a teleporting warlock backed up by frost trap, and they could not dish out enough damage to get anyone into kill range. Shipit warlock finally got open after a long fight and landed his bursts to score a kill on TSG DK. Can TSG adapt?
The final game took place on Blade's Edge and this game TSG managed their target swapping quite a bit better. If the warlock jumped off the bridge they went on the hunter or paladin briefly, and swapped back to him right after. Shipit warlock never had a chance to get off his hard casts, and their paladin eventually ran out of mana. At end of the game TSG had all three of the enemy players at 40%, and Veex's blade storm came back up as he took down the warlock and his team advances to the grand finals! Shipit dished out zero pressure this game, maybe they should consider affliction vs X6? We will see!
Shipit vs X6 (DK/Hunter/Paladin vs Warrior/Lock/Druid): 3-2
Will Shipit try something different? X6 will probably start with DK/warrior/paladin and move to one of their many comps depend on what Shipit comes up with.
To my surprise X6 went with warrior/lock/druid which is quite a bit riskier against DK / BM damage. Shipit went with BM instead of survival and trained X6 druid down for an easy win on Ruins. Shipit up 1-0.
Why is X6 taking a chance again in game 2? They went with warrior/lock/druid again instead of triple plate, the comp that counters PHD. Almost the exact same play of game 1 on Nagrand. Korean hunter got his trap on the ground then hopped over the frost trap with BM up to pump his damage into X6 druid, who stayed alive a little longer this game around the pillars but still went down after he coughed up his NS. What is up with the druids in this tournament? They all love to travel form through frost trap / desecration . . . Shipit up 2-0.
About time! Why didn't X6 run this comp to start? They went triple plate and was able to eventually catch Korean hunter in an intercept stun and kill him. The Koreans put up a decent fight, forced bubble and got enemy DK low, but hunter is just so incredibly fragile against arms warrior's plethora of intercepts/charges. Will the Koreans run their lock/hunter/paladin team? Will X6 pick warrior/lock/druid in anticipation? Shipit up 2-1 but the answer lies in the heart of battle (what is up with the Ryu line from announcers)!
Game 4 takes place on Blade's Edge and Shipit went with Korean destro lock/hunter/paladin. On Blade's Edge it was a long game as the warlock as able to survive for a very long time with teleports and bridge jumps. However Shipit had the exact same problem they experienced against TSG, as their destruction warlock could never get off any hard casts. Immolation's are cleansed and if it wasn't, the lock usually had a cleave on him to stop his casts. Why not trying out affliction? The warlock is doing very poor damage compared to the X6 cleave, and the hunter can't possibly make it up. Seems like Shipit is out of ideas against triple plate.
Shipit went back to their root of PHD for the fifth and final game and X6 stayed with triple plate as expected. I thought X6 had it in the bag but Shipit went aggressively on X6's paladin, who chose to Zilea a flash of light against a Korean DK when he was at 4000 health, as opposed to bubbling right away. Mind freeze and he was caught in an interrupt and killed for a second time this tournament before he could bubble (the other time against SK-US). Souler cost his team the ticket to grand finals for sure on that play, but they really have no one to blame except themselves for NOT playing triple plate during the first two games.
Not sure why so many people dogged on Payce of the American PHD who died against SK's rushdown before he could bubble, when every single paladin in this tournament experienced it at least once. The divine shield is paladin's trump card and they hold it as tight as Zilea holds his cat. Countless times a paladin would get away at under 25% without bubbling, being able to save it for later and win the match, no one ever notice it. Every now and then a single pre-bubble death, everyone dog them. The life of a goal keeper I guess.
TSG vs Shipit (DK/warrior/paladin vs DK/hunter/paladin): 2-1
TSG is the heavy favorite here unless Shipit can find an answer for triple plate in short order. They trained X6 paladin and experienced some degree of success but I am not sure if that is reliable enough to win two series back-to-back against a full time paladin like Zileas.
First match in Dalaran and TSG charged right out of the gate, Veex got off a sensational blade storm right away and took the Shipit hunter to very low. TSG rode the momentum and got all three targets low, once Shipit paladin got out of his bubble he went down for the count. Zero pressure on TSG at all, total control start to finish.
Better game for Shipit on ROV as they dished out a ton of pressure on Zilea early but he did not go down without bubbling. TSG again brought both hunter/paladin low to force bubble, and once both paladins are out of bubble, they both took big damage and went down at roughly same time. Unfortunately for Shipit, hunter just can't get away from DK/warrior and they lost the 2v2 again and Zilea is one game away from his championship dreams!
Superb play by Shipit as they forced a paladin trade in game 3, except this time their DK had his hungering cold back up and was able to buy time for his hunter to get away and unload. Shipit won the 2v2 and it is now 2-1. So close, can TSG bring home the American pride for Stormstrike?
Go TSG! Go TSG! The world champions! Final map on Dalaran and TSG played a much tighter game on Shipit hunter and made a much cleaner swap to him after bubble/hand of protection. Just impossible for hunter to deal with warrior/DK cleave as he was pressured so much, unable to dish out real damage. Veex/Valrath just so good together at dishing out maximum damage and when they brought down Shipit the crowd was on their feet!
USA! American Pride! Not only TSG played the brute strength of cleave to perfection, SK also proved themselves as the best RMP in the world with wins over HON(BB). The golden age of American WOW arena! The fact that we do not have a singular dominant BG is exactly what gives us the versatility and a large array of comps to play with. Humans, Gnomes, Taurens, Orcs, and Trolls all live happily in one land. Strength in diversity!


1163 comments
Fenkarn Aug 22, 2009 at 9:30 am
+8 votes
first on daddy day
i suck at timezones, how many hours til it starts?
i suck at timezones, how many hours til it starts?
Guidor Aug 22, 2009 at 7:31 pm
+3 votes
Zilea for president. Knew he'd get it once paladins became good, having been a fan of him since he ran rogue/paladin to top 10 every season during BC, you have to give the guy alot of credit, he mastered his class like no one else, and stuck to it. Veex and Valrath are both amazing too, so much damage and co-ordination. Thank god RMP didn't win.
dcs Aug 23, 2009 at 3:43 am
+5 votes
"The fact that we do not have a singular dominant BG is exactly what
gives us the versatility and a large array of comps to play with"
Ah its American Pride when the U.S. is winning, but azn pride any other day. Just be sure to remember which country puts food on your table.
gives us the versatility and a large array of comps to play with"
Ah its American Pride when the U.S. is winning, but azn pride any other day. Just be sure to remember which country puts food on your table.
Holger Aug 22, 2009 at 9:36 am
+1 votes
Veex is one serious looking dude
He and Valrath put out some pretty obscene damage, even for cleave. I hope they win
He and Valrath put out some pretty obscene damage, even for cleave. I hope they win
CongoBongo Aug 22, 2009 at 12:47 pm
+1 votes
Veex has the look of a serial killer, or he's 100% confident in everything he does. I love it.
Cinn Aug 22, 2009 at 11:50 am
+4 votes
or is the game? since SK-US has a pretty impressive list of victories now i'd say (even and mostly vs 'counters')
nzgs Aug 22, 2009 at 5:40 pm
+5 votes
Rofl **** "counters". Nothing counters an elite RMP. If you haven't noticed, HON are without their star rogue, SK.eu (imo the best rmp ever) are no more, enforcer is just **** and ensidia aren't attending with their new mage. This blizzcon is so much easier for RMP than last year's it isnt funny. SK-US have one strat against every team they face: use all your cooldowns within the 1st minute. I haven't seen any great resets like CoM were famous for, have barely seen any fast switches. It's just one rushdown after another. They just got beaten at their own game.
But I'm not blaming SK for that, every team is doing it. It's not even fun to watch. I wish we could have the WLD's back. Totally pathetic to see a player of the calibre of Inflame getting 3-0'd by a X6 cooldown rushdown. I don't even know why half these players play the game.
But I'm not blaming SK for that, every team is doing it. It's not even fun to watch. I wish we could have the WLD's back. Totally pathetic to see a player of the calibre of Inflame getting 3-0'd by a X6 cooldown rushdown. I don't even know why half these players play the game.
StoneDrunk Aug 22, 2009 at 11:56 am
+3 votes
yup. 3-2 against Shipit. Something even Council of Mages couldn't even do.
chronixyo Aug 22, 2009 at 1:07 pm
+3 votes
yea i guess they'd need a rogue who can do more than spam mutilate and kick feared druids.
Lightbeard Aug 22, 2009 at 2:10 pm
+1 votes
Whens the last time theyve been to a tourny havent heard anything from them since they got beat by HON
Shizbam Aug 22, 2009 at 2:19 pm
+1 votes
Pretty sure SK.us could lose 3-0 next match and it would still be hilarious because Kae ate his words, forcefully.
Atleast US isn't the only place that talks crap non-stop and just turns into whiny *****es as soon as it is shoved in their face.
Atleast US isn't the only place that talks crap non-stop and just turns into whiny *****es as soon as it is shoved in their face.
Sully Aug 22, 2009 at 9:44 am
+13 votes
Didn't sk have that last game against shipit in the bag but enforcer is a cooldown spamming wotlk hero and couldn't jump off the bridge and restealth? I mean he didn't even need to gouge the pet or anything, just jump off and restealth (jump off the side the hunter wasn't on obviously lol)
They basically beat shipit, but gave it away by being retarded.
They basically beat shipit, but gave it away by being retarded.
Turtledunkz Aug 22, 2009 at 10:01 am
+0 votes
I Think SK was a little over-confident on beating them and just tried to rush them down.
Although the tunnel vision hunter was immaculate to say the least ~___~
I Think Watching SK Vs. BB(NOT HON ANYMORE) will be a match to remember.
Although the tunnel vision hunter was immaculate to say the least ~___~
I Think Watching SK Vs. BB(NOT HON ANYMORE) will be a match to remember.
Dheartstehe Aug 22, 2009 at 10:33 am
+11 votes
Turtledunkz said
I Think SK was a little over-confident on beating them and just tried to rush them down.
Although the tunnel vision hunter was immaculate to say the least ~___~
I Think Watching SK Vs. BB(NOT HON ANYMORE) will be a match to remember.
Although the tunnel vision hunter was immaculate to say the least ~___~
I Think Watching SK Vs. BB(NOT HON ANYMORE) will be a match to remember.
Oh wait they do. ******* retards.
Sully Aug 22, 2009 at 10:05 am
+1 votes
if you jump off the bridge, the pet has to path around and you drop combat. Seriously. wtf r u talking about atare? DK pet has leap, but if u jump down to the pillar it's los and it has to path around
Shizbam Aug 22, 2009 at 10:15 am
+7 votes
Sully said
if you jump off the bridge, the pet has to path around and you drop combat. Seriously. wtf r u talking about atare? DK pet has leap, but if u jump down to the pillar it's los and it has to path around
It isn't so much that, it was the fact he chose to run down the ramp when a hunter was just sitting by the pillar and just looked like he had a present dropped in his lap. Enforcers play def suggested he has no idea of anything going on outside a 5 yard radius. Granted it is easy to sit back and nit pick his performance but seriously, he would just throw away their advantage at times by just rushing into retarded situations at random.
Just struck me as watching the random baddy who just runs into arena yelling "YER RED YER DEAD"
Atare Aug 22, 2009 at 10:30 am
-3 votes
No, wtf are you talking about? You cannot restealth to regen health with a pet on you. You have a mage and rogue without cooldowns vs hunter and dk with pet sac that brings him to 70% hp, how do you expect the rogue to do anything but die is just beyond me.
What he was trying to do is drop the pet to get a restealth off and get hp back while mage played defensive, but he got rolled over with a killshot most likely. And by all means go ahead and mock them some more because they had the nerve to go rmp vs a hard counter and lost to facerolling.................
What he was trying to do is drop the pet to get a restealth off and get hp back while mage played defensive, but he got rolled over with a killshot most likely. And by all means go ahead and mock them some more because they had the nerve to go rmp vs a hard counter and lost to facerolling.................
Sully Aug 22, 2009 at 2:08 pm
+1 votes
He was at 80 percent on top of the bridge, he didn't need to regen anything, he needed to gouge the pet, jump off to the pillar away from the other team, and drop combat. I know you can do it, because I can jump off and get drink ticks in, so a rouge can drop combat and restealth. He might have had dots, but he ran all the way up the bridge and by the time he had jumped off and dropped combat, he could have restealthed.
Anyways, reading my comment over it sounds harsher than I meant it. I actually am rooting for sk, and think the crazy hate for enforcer is overblown. I like seeing them stick to pmr and face counters when everyone else (including the massively overhyped koreans) tries to counter.
I just think he needed to kill himself to restealth and open on something, especially on the one map you can force a pet to path around. I don't play a rogue tho, although as a priest I am highly aware of them, and the cheap **** they do to get free restealths off and kill me.
Anyways, reading my comment over it sounds harsher than I meant it. I actually am rooting for sk, and think the crazy hate for enforcer is overblown. I like seeing them stick to pmr and face counters when everyone else (including the massively overhyped koreans) tries to counter.
I just think he needed to kill himself to restealth and open on something, especially on the one map you can force a pet to path around. I don't play a rogue tho, although as a priest I am highly aware of them, and the cheap **** they do to get free restealths off and kill me.
Hakai Aug 22, 2009 at 6:25 pm
+0 votes
Sully said
He was at 80 percent on top of the bridge, he didn't need to regen anything, he needed to gouge the pet, jump off to the pillar away from the other team, and drop combat. I know you can do it, because I can jump off and get drink ticks in, so a rouge can drop combat and restealth. He might have had dots, but he ran all the way up the bridge and by the time he had jumped off and dropped combat, he could have restealthed.
Anyways, reading my comment over it sounds harsher than I meant it. I actually am rooting for sk, and think the crazy hate for enforcer is overblown. I like seeing them stick to pmr and face counters when everyone else (including the massively overhyped koreans) tries to counter.
I just think he needed to kill himself to restealth and open on something, especially on the one map you can force a pet to path around. I don't play a rogue tho, although as a priest I am highly aware of them, and the cheap **** they do to get free restealths off and kill me.
Anyways, reading my comment over it sounds harsher than I meant it. I actually am rooting for sk, and think the crazy hate for enforcer is overblown. I like seeing them stick to pmr and face counters when everyone else (including the massively overhyped koreans) tries to counter.
I just think he needed to kill himself to restealth and open on something, especially on the one map you can force a pet to path around. I don't play a rogue tho, although as a priest I am highly aware of them, and the cheap **** they do to get free restealths off and kill me.
Even had he gotten a restealth off, once stealthed his movement speed is reduced significantly, and since he was out of cooldowns (Sprint) he wouldn't have made it to the opener before the pet caught up to him (pathing nonwithstanding).
L2Read.
I didn't watch the match, but saying he should've restealthed in the situation described is just retarded.
Sully Aug 22, 2009 at 7:30 pm
+1 votes
Actually the dk was under the bridge a few paces away so, actually he could have. You shouldn't talk **** when you didn't even watch the game. Also I heard mages can slow things and help their rogue reset.
Maybe you're the retard for talking out of your ass when you didn't even watch the game. Typical ignorant american with a big mouth.

Maybe you're the retard for talking out of your ass when you didn't even watch the game. Typical ignorant american with a big mouth.
Hakai Aug 22, 2009 at 10:11 pm
+1 votes
Sully said
Actually the dk was under the bridge a few paces away so, actually he could have. You shouldn't talk **** when you didn't even watch the game. Also I heard mages can slow things and help their rogue reset.
Maybe you're the retard for talking out of your ass when you didn't even watch the game. Typical ignorant american with a big mouth.

Maybe you're the retard for talking out of your ass when you didn't even watch the game. Typical ignorant american with a big mouth.
Their argument was that the rogue died because he didn't run away, restealth and regen/eat or whatever.
Even if it was as you say, and the DK was down the bottom, that only does two things, both of which go against your argument.
1) The DK can prevent him from restealthing at all, pet nonwithstanding.
2) If the entire purpose of escaping was to get away and med/eat w/e, what advantage does opening on the DK without doing so pose?
Think before you talk, moron.
P.S: I'm not American.
Sully Aug 23, 2009 at 5:22 am
+1 votes
Really, that's funny because in the game just before that one (which you also didn't watch) enforcer reset and restealthed in a 2 on 2 with 20 percent life. He left his mage alone with dk and hunter and took the 30 seconds to restealth and open. O yeah they won that game. The purpose of reteathing would be, to open on one of them while the other was poly'd.
I don't even play a rogue and I'm better than u at it.
So I guess it's not possible right.
You are a retard!
I don't even play a rogue and I'm better than u at it.
So I guess it's not possible right.
You are a retard!
Bettyblade Aug 22, 2009 at 11:26 am
+1 votes
Sully said
Didn't sk have that last game against shipit in the bag but enforcer is a cooldown spamming wotlk hero and couldn't jump off the bridge and restealth? I mean he didn't even need to gouge the pet or anything, just jump off and restealth (jump off the side the hunter wasn't on obviously lol)
They basically beat shipit, but gave it away by being retarded.
They basically beat shipit, but gave it away by being retarded.
Darkmiss Aug 22, 2009 at 1:10 pm
+1 votes
Bettyblade said
You kind of forgot the game where Shipit's paladin didn't bubble and gave the game to SK. They both gave a game away, so Shipit should have still won
StoneDrunk Aug 22, 2009 at 11:58 am
+0 votes
he wasn't really on top of the bridge. They were following Pookz around, who was in the middle of the arena. If he ran for a restealth (which is impossible with a DK pet) then Pookz would have been left out to dry.
Kunai Aug 22, 2009 at 12:17 pm
+0 votes
Once you stealth with the ghoul on you it stops chasing, so restealthing with the pet on him would've been possible.
StoneDrunk Aug 22, 2009 at 12:20 pm
+1 votes
he had DK dots on him and 2 pets actually. BM Hunter pets run faster than you do anyways, so its kind of hard to get away from them. I doubt with the COI spam that Coilmaster was putting out that he had sprint up.
nzgs Aug 22, 2009 at 5:48 pm
+5 votes
Enforcer has no game plan beyond the first 60 seconds. He just runs around like a headless chicken. The game isn't over just because you get a kill, especially when you have a liability on your team like that. The problem with using every single cooldown offensively and so early is precisely that you will not be able to see the game out.
I wouldn't be surprised if other teams don't just train pookz hard and switch to enforcer late game because he is guaranteed to have used all his cooldowns and be a sitting duck.
I wouldn't be surprised if other teams don't just train pookz hard and switch to enforcer late game because he is guaranteed to have used all his cooldowns and be a sitting duck.
MissnL1nK Aug 22, 2009 at 10:11 am
+1 votes
There were some really good games so far, definitely looking forward to today's matches.
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