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by Ming, Level 68
Last updated at July 1, 2008, 1:12 am
You got the first hint when Hafu was caught getting jiggy with Celex at MLG San Diego (in Chinese terms, it is called a "green hat" for Glickz to wear).   You saw it coming when Glickz and Rhaegyn replaced Hafu with Greenranger for CGS.  You can almost smell what MOB Godfather is cooking after he condemned Hafu's behaviors and vowed to never send her to a MLG event again. 


And it is all clear as sky when Glickz finally pulled the trigger and transferred to an unknown location under a secret name which will soon be revealed on WOM.  Perhaps he learned from Serennia-sama's war path and realized in order to measure his "container", he must cut off all emotional ties.  Perhaps May Wang's tears of pearl did convince Glickz to take her with him aa she too disappeared from BG9.  Maybe Hafu finally ran off with the mysterious "prince", a very wealthy man who owns a gladiator character of every single class and paid thousands of dollars to many famous players to maintain his collection. 

Either way, e-romance takes an incredible amount of strength and dedication to maintain.  Only the hokage himself has the iron will to turn it into something more than a side quest, setting the ultimate example for younger ninjas to follow.  Still, looking back, I am sure both Hafu-chan and Glickz would always remember the time they spend in San Diego, and going forward, they will get a better understanding of true love.

The Korean Difference

The Chinese armory is finally open, and I expect SK100 to be filled with Chinese flags two months from now (see the Chinese rogue with 8200+ combined ratings, highest rated player worldwide!).  The big money competitions from this point on will all be international.  WWI Paris is worth as much as three MLGs combined.  And Blizzard's 2008 tournament grand finals is worth as much as six MLGs! 

I am not sure if Koreans can justify sending teams to MLG events, as they will have to place second just to break even on travel expenses!  In fact, due to financial issues, Nihilum's sponsors are reluctant to send the team to MLG Orlando, despite their second place finish at San Diego!  It is a shame, because MLG presentation is far and away the best we have ever seen in Western world.  But after WWI Paris, American arena lost a lot of prestige although watching Serennia-sama never gets old.

Like everyone else I was very impressed by GOM TV presentations.  The intro of players and characters, the professional stage works, instant replay in slow motion, and oh, the 1v1 duels!  Wow, can you imagine Azael vs Neilyo 1v1 for the first match point before actual 3v3 action begins?  That will make the matches so much more personal.  I really hope they add this to MLG matches soon, perhaps use it as a tie breaker for the fifth and final match similar to penalty kicks in soccer?  Watching GOM TV made me realize how much I would love a KOF style 1v1 arena, how about Tekken Tag style 1v1 arena? 

At end of the day, no other country has the environment Korean players enjoy.  A famous Chinese player said "In Korea my ping is single digit and I can play while downloading from bit torrent, in U.S. my ping is double digit and I can play while browsing web pages, in China my ping is triple digits and I lag even with nothing in the background!"  Not only Korea's fiber optic network is way ahead of everyone else, as Inactive-chan would put it "In korea, being pro at video games is pretty much the equivalent of being a movie star in America." 

This is the type of environment that breeds champions.  Chinese parents will always preach academic success, American parents will probably kick you out of the house if you try to become a pro gamer, Korean parents will probably be 100% supportive.  That is the Korean difference.  Let's face it, once you hit a certain age and reach a certain level of income, pro gaming is just way too risky.  Most pro gamers start out in their parent's basements and there is nothing wrong with that. 

Inactive-Chan, The Korean Killer?

When I watched Koreans talk trash at WWI Paris, I really wanted an American player to step up to the plate and go all gangsta on them.  Neilyo-kun is just nowhere near his nerd raging e-persona in RL.  Serennia-sama is actually very confident in front of the camera, but he didn't come from the hoods either.

The player who fits the bill is Inactive-chan, the Allen Iverson of WOW players.  Coming from a traumatic childhood and growing up in one of the toughest neighborhoods in America, Inactive has seen it all.  The demeanor he carried at MLG San Diego was straight out of And 1 mix tape.  I would love to see him show these Koreans that they know nothing about American gamers.

In all seriousness, Inactive held a very low opinion of online ladders and simply refused to practice hard, and like Iverson believed in the fallacy of "playing into shape".  After his CLC fell apart at the hands of nerd sponsors at San Diego, they went back to the drawing boards and finally started playing serious games again.  Money make the world go round and if there is money in 3v3, Inactive and his boys will go after it like a bag of cocaine.   200 games on TR and it has been a night and day difference, Inactive is finally back on his rogue and he was ahead of Neilyo-kun before he went warrior for 5v5.  I can't wait to see what this talented club can do at Orlando now they have worked out the kinks.
     
210 comments
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 1:21 am
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posted as i was logging in, diaf.
Heirophant
Heirophant Jul 1, 2008 at 10:04 am
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My super super secret sources also tell me that GLICKZ is back on Mannoroth.
Jinla
Jinla Jul 1, 2008 at 1:19 am
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Klynx Jul 1, 2008 at 9:21 am
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Either way, e-romance takes an incredible amount of strength and
dedication to maintain.  Only the hokage himself has the iron will to
turn it into something more than a side quest, setting the ultimate
example for younger ninjas to follow.

Read: e-romance is stupid and pointless.  Only someone so invested in a dumb video game can mentally rationalize expanding a relationship he made online, making himself a laughing stock of normal people everywhere.

PS Estel's a ***** *****.
Godsmak
Godsmak Jul 1, 2008 at 11:08 am
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Agreed.

How dumb is a e-relationship? So pathetic.
Klynx
Klynx Jul 1, 2008 at 11:38 am
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Look at this, he's not even defending his promiscuous squinty-eyed wife.  Obviously he doesn't have a molecule of chivalry in his tiny pale asian body.
Sector X
Sector X Jul 1, 2008 at 12:47 pm
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betterthanyou
betterthanyou Jul 1, 2008 at 1:19 am
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Lusitania
Lusitania Jul 1, 2008 at 1:21 am
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"in Chinese terms, it is called a "green hat" for Glickz to wear"

Whereas Estel gets a "green card"?

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Aziraphale
Aziraphale Jul 1, 2008 at 3:55 am
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loosely related picture + topic, grats again
Vayl
Vayl Jul 1, 2008 at 4:01 am
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You never cease to make me vote you up.
Never stop please.
Aziraphale
Aziraphale Jul 1, 2008 at 4:40 am unhide comment
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Vayl
Vayl Jul 2, 2008 at 7:32 am
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Its okay if you don't get it :(
Aziraphale
Aziraphale Jul 2, 2008 at 10:31 am
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Yeah they're really on another level, very sophisticated humor
Vayl
Vayl Jul 2, 2008 at 4:12 pm
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You. Mirror.
Thought: "Its okay, at least I'm smart".

You must be one of these guys.
Aziraphale
Aziraphale Jul 2, 2008 at 7:49 pm
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Just because I don't think he's funny doesn't mean I "don't get it."  Sorry for saying you're easy to entertain, we both have our opinions and tastes.
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 1:23 am
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The people who dueled on GOM T.V., especialy that rogue who was supposedly the best but lost in the finals to a frost mage, was mediocre as ****.

Dueling in arenas is just 5 minutes of pillar humping, and resetting, and its stupid as ****.

Gl to inactive and co though, he's going to need it, and are there any korean teams popping up at Orlando btw?
Zapatos
Zapatos Jul 1, 2008 at 4:49 am
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More like the rogue tried to pillar hug and reset the fight countless times but the mage stayed on his ass the whole time and used blizzard brilliantly to deny restealths. I agree the frost mage vs frost mage w/ pillars was pretty stupid though.
Dahis
Dahis Jul 1, 2008 at 10:44 am
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The mages were amazing for the most part.  Hiren was pretty strong except vs. Minaegi where he just played like a retard.
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 12:25 pm
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Minaegi destroyed hiren, and played really well, by playing very unconventionally. The mages blizzards and such as zapatos mentioned were really good, and I gotta give him full credit.

Asf or HIren, HOneslty, consider the fact that all his other duels, they were pretty dmaned easy. They got to use their gear from live, and he has pve gear, so **** like an elmeental shaman, an arms warrior, a rogue who he jumps BOTH times, a frost mage, should all be eas yas **** for him. It's not really impressive, and he dragged out 50 matches that couldnt have ended fast.

The  reason I said this is because I'm used to duels being fast paced/semi fast paced, and just illar humping and making it an arena **** fest is just ******* boring as ****.
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 10:46 am
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are you kidding me?  WTF do you call 3v3 and 5v5 where the healer is just circling the **** out of the pillar the whole match, and everyone is around a different pillar or some ****?  youre just a jealous fgt.  that rogue AND mage would tear you up, its easy to talk **** as a spectator nub.

1v1's a hell of a lot more entertaining from a spectators view also.  all anyone see's in 3v3 and 5v5 is power spam, and even then 1/2 the players are off the screen where you cant see ****. 

you are bad, have bad taste, and post bad comments.  go back to wow forums plz.
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 12:29 pm
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It's amazing hwo stupid you are really.

Duels are gay as **** when played like arenas you stuipd ****, I like dueling a 100x more, and I hate how half the duels were playing out. Only duel i liked to watch that tourny was Minaegi vs Hiren, where minaegi destroyed him even though he should lose.

I'm sorry you can't read english, and being the idiot that you are, everything a peerson of average intelligence says probalby goes right over your head. Now please do us all a favor and die you cokc sucking closet virgin.

P.S. grats on challenger this season, you're a big dog now eh?
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 12:41 pm
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lol so much nerdrage in such a bad player~

its 'person' not 'peerson', how can you talk about intelligence when you dont even know how to spell person lololol...

the title comeback?  youre just like ***tion, get your rl worth through ratings/title/efame.  you really shouldnt be talking about virgins when youre holed up in your basement bragging about how great at arena when 3/4's of the playerbase takes it as a joke.

funny how self esteem tends to work with people like you.  just kill yourself already instead of after your parents take wow away thx.
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 1:00 pm
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Nice response time nerd, you're fail in everything you do speaks a ton about yourself.

Funny how being retarded works out for you people like you, amazing how you even figured out how to breathe. Guess those small accomplishments build up eh?

Grats on trolling gameriot up to level 46, and fyi, challengers can't call glads bad, especially when they're amazingl ike me.
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 1:09 pm
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you are really really bad at this....like call me retarded a 100 more times pls.....

go cry to your efriends to come help you against me like you always do sissy!!!111
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 1:21 pm
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It's more of the fact that everybody thinks you're a god damn retard, kill yourself.
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 1:25 pm
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at least im not a hermaphrodite!!!!!111
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 1:25 pm
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say retard again btw, i miss it...
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 1:54 pm
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yea you only have a ****** retard
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 1:09 pm
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Oh, and 46 should be a pretty important number for you, probably the number of years you'll hae to wait before ever getting some *****.

HAHA RAPED ****** GET **** ON.
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 1:10 pm
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Brilliance
Brilliance Jul 2, 2008 at 12:40 am
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Started fun and angry and ended up scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Nezda
Nezda Jul 1, 2008 at 3:23 am
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O MY GOD...

"YOU'RE DONE! YOU'RE DONE!"

"I'M STUCK I'M STUCK I'M STUCK!" In case you didn't hear, "I'M STUCK!"
Agares
Agares Jul 1, 2008 at 4:11 am
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Yiska
Yiska Jul 1, 2008 at 5:52 am
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Klynx
Klynx Jul 1, 2008 at 9:45 am
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YEAH!  YEAH!  YOU'RE DONE!


WE AIN'T GOT SOME NERD SPONSOR!
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 1:11 pm
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i LIKE HOW THE BLACK GUY SAYS BLACKBIRD
zyZ-
zyZ- Jul 1, 2008 at 1:16 pm
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Deltons
Deltons Jul 1, 2008 at 1:24 am
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He transfered back to his original server? But ok.

Also hafu xfered there and is on his teams as well.
Ely
Ely Jul 1, 2008 at 1:35 am
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Dindin
Dindin Jul 1, 2008 at 1:46 am
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well thats gay, i like drama better when its actually true.
Favara
Favara Jul 1, 2008 at 3:26 am
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TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 10:47 am
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Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 12:31 pm
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We hope you die a painful death.
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 12:49 pm
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Vadren
Vadren Jul 1, 2008 at 4:52 pm
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Kqpro
Kqpro Jul 1, 2008 at 1:31 am
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the mage 1v1 was just ridiculous
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 10:48 am
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it was actually pretty awesome IMO, in fact all of the 1v1's in ARENA were awesome to watch. 

they just need to limit the bandaging/tablefood instead of a time limit.
Godsmak
Godsmak Jul 1, 2008 at 11:09 am
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Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 12:32 pm
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No it wasn't, Minaegi destroyed clazzi, because clazzi didnt play well at all that duel.
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 12:45 pm
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nocs what hermaphrodites think k? k.
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 1:32 am
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what the ****, i cant imagine playing with single digit ping

i remember getting 80 ping on this one server and could kick like 19/20 feldoms

on most servers i've got like 200+ ping and thought it was normal
Aziraphale
Aziraphale Jul 1, 2008 at 3:57 am
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Weirdly, I had been at about 50 ms since release.. About 3 months ago my ping shot up to 180+.  Haven't found any better server, only worse.
yog
yog Jul 1, 2008 at 5:32 am
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no amount of ping will make you good at the game, badrogue
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 5:38 am
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yog, you're like 0-15 against faction

you've had your day in the sun, and now you're bad, sorry
schade
schade Jul 1, 2008 at 6:32 am
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noble.. 1) you are a girl 2) you are an ugly girl 3) you play world of warcraft 4) apparently from what I've heard you suck @ it 5) You are online on WoM 24/7.
imo this is time for you to shut the **** up.
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 6:39 am
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schade here is angry because he tried to hook up with me in PMs and i rejected him
yog
yog Jul 1, 2008 at 7:02 am
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badrogue, i lost to faction when he was running shadowpriest/rogue and i was playing mutilate with 0/5 MOD with a resto shaman with little shaman experience. and you've never had any time in the sun, because you've been bad throughout your entire wow career
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 7:06 am
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You are affected by Curse of Tongues.

~~~~

Obscurity has died.





farmed by faction // farmed by pyrrho
yog
yog Jul 1, 2008 at 7:10 am
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god ur such a noob i dont even know how to respond to ur levels of retarded noob
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 7:18 am
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hey, remember that time i was on my horde alt and you were like "god we'r gettin farmed by protoz and twotees becuz they r using shadow resist!", then i recommended using curse of shadows on the paladin and you were like "holy ****, we actually won"

face it yog, i made you the man you are today
Vayl
Vayl Jul 2, 2008 at 7:37 am
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Made out of pure win; please accept my +.
schade
schade Jul 1, 2008 at 7:14 am
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yeye how childish is that. Post the Screenshot yea, mebbe then people will believe you.. Anyway.. If i did like you I would just call your father and offer him a bag of rice or a piece of dog poo and the deal would be set. A girl that plays wow is often more sad than anything else.. you fail in every way possible chi.nk.
Bet you even thought posting your picture would make all guys go crazy.. well normally it would but not when you got a flat ugly face like you. Looks like a truck just ran you over.. sorry ;s
schade
schade Jul 1, 2008 at 7:15 am
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NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 7:20 am
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schade, you seem to have an unhealthy, obsessive hatred for asian women. is there something you need to share with us?
schade
schade Jul 1, 2008 at 9:29 am
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NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 9:31 am
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i wouldn't set your standards too high, bro, i doubt you're a very appealing package
schade
schade Jul 1, 2008 at 12:19 pm
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kk.. just shut your riceeating face.. as I said girls + wow = bad combination.. specially chinese girls
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 5:34 pm
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poega
poega Jul 1, 2008 at 8:20 am
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Schade you must be the most trolled being on the planet earth.. seriously :S
Stryider
Stryider Jul 1, 2008 at 2:20 pm
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^ This.

Get a clue Schade.  When you finally realize what's happing here you're probably going to cry yourself to sleep.
nzgs
nzgs Jul 1, 2008 at 8:28 am
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i play with a 20 ping and there is no difference between that and a 100 ping. Normal human reaction time is around 130ms minimum so really ping is an insignificant delay compared to reactions. Rogue only gets unplayable for me after about 300ms.
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 9:10 am
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i'd assume good gamers have better reaction times than most people, but i dont really know much about this so i'll take your word for it

i can say that there is a HUGE difference between 80 and 200 ms

i used to play rogue at 650 ping, it was terrible
nzgs
nzgs Jul 1, 2008 at 9:32 am
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130ms is extremely low, the average reaction time is around 210ms. I'm assuming gamers tend to have faster reactions.

As shadowstep i dont really notice any difference below 150 or so. Sure for mutilate it might be a bit harder but thats just to do with the terrible positional netcode.
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 9:36 am
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oh **** man, link me some data on this

how good would a SUPER MARTIAL ARTIST GONE GAMING PRO's reaction time be?
yog
yog Jul 1, 2008 at 10:32 am
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pyrrho, remember when u thought shadowpriest warlock countered rogue druid and still do
Dahis
Dahis Jul 1, 2008 at 10:56 am
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http://www.mathsisfun.com/games/reaction-time.html if anyone wants to test their reaction time.  Averaged about 165 without cheating, but Fel Dom still owns me because I have ****ty ping. 

An impossibly great 130ms reaction time + 150ms ping is worse worse overall than a marginally average 210ms reaction time + 50 ping. 

I.E. limited variability in human reaction times are easily compensated for (or ruined by) the much greater variability in internet connection speed. 
Saithe
Saithe Jul 1, 2008 at 12:43 pm
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Mine's at around .185, fel doms are still easy imho because they're predictable.

It's still a ***** when you're a bit laggy and half the cast goes by before you even see it :/.
TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 12:47 pm
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mebbe its just your slow bad reactions because your hands are used to forward back jerkin off type motions?

just a thought.
Saithe
Saithe Jul 6, 2008 at 9:57 pm
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I hope your speedy raections are carrying you to good ratings...

Oh wait you fat nerd, you're highest rating was like 1600 late season.

Go ******* die you scrub no life ******.
kavekk
kavekk Jul 1, 2008 at 1:53 pm
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Hey, thanks for that Dahis.

I averaged 0.198 before coffee, 0.176 after (gave it 30 minutes to sink in).

I should start doing cocaine and see how it changes.
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 5:20 pm
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season one, against a gnome in greens, it was
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 5:25 pm
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yog remember that time you were on moreland and you were like "hey man let's do 2s" then we got spriest+rogue and you died to a solo rogue in 10 seconds without painsuping or healing once
kavekk
kavekk Jul 1, 2008 at 1:50 pm
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Do these tards think thet your avatar is you?

Lol.
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 5:21 pm
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TehJerk
TehJerk Jul 1, 2008 at 10:54 am
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lol pyrrho's a girl?  i knew it.  thats why you were hating on the pornstar, and me?  you were jealous?  i forgive you.
Dahis
Dahis Jul 1, 2008 at 3:34 pm
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Man this thing is super variable for me for some reason, anywhere from .16-.195 depending on how pumped I am. 

Seems to be faster if I'm like 2 inches away from my screen but now my brain hurts.
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 5:32 pm
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my reaction time was .200~ the first few times, but i got down to a consistent .170~ after a little practice, but i just got woke up!!!!!

i'll try it again later when i'm less groggy
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 1, 2008 at 5:40 pm
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yeah now i can't average better than .19, .13 would be amazing rofl
Grup
Grup Jul 2, 2008 at 9:02 pm
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0.13 would take an exceptionally freakish person.  And if someone had a 0.13 reaction time, then they better dominate in this game, because they would have an inherent advantage against everyone else and would just have to be dumb to squander it.

That said, the reaction time measurements don't directly translate to WoW.  Mouse latency and clicking vs keyboard and pressing a button would be the first difference.  Another difference is that some people panic or just don't have the same reaction time in a pressure situation, or when there's far more to pay attention to at once (multi-tasking I guess).  In those online games I've always averaged about 0.18 when I'm really concentrating on it, but if I'm paying attention to my entire screen at once and only using peripheral vision to look at whatever change is happening, it's more like 0.25. 

So someone that gets 0.2 on there might be 0.22 in WoW, while someone that gets 0.18 in there might be 0.25 in WoW (probably me).  And my latency is like 230-250 so only when I'm 100% expecting the fel doms do I interrupt them :(  Unless of course they get some pushback on it.
NoblemanPyrrho
NoblemanPyrrho Jul 2, 2008 at 9:33 pm
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when you're doing something that measures in thousandth of a second, having a monitor with a good refresh rate and a non-cordless mouse would probably up your score too
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