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by Ming, Level 69
Last updated at June 5, 2009, 11:56 pm
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WOM Live Blog Saturday: 10:00 AM - 10:00 PM US Eastern
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For those of you who missed the opening night, let's just say you can tell who qualified for the regionals, and who didn't.  Teams that did qualify for the regionals showed a lot more cohesiveness together and they dominated the opening night.  Gotfrag is running replays on all the matches played tonight, watch it again here!

Complexity (Rogue/Mage/Priest) vs Fnatic (Rogue/Lock/Shaman): 3-0

No contest here as Glick/Hafu showed very little coordination together since their break-up.  I am not sure why didn't they go back to warrior/lock/druid, or even rogue/lock/druid as Hafu-chan looked very uncomfortable on her shaman.  The Fnatic team looked as out of shape as Jared "Noktyn" Fogle's 2008 Pandemic team, and I can't see them winning a single series in this tournament with this comp.  I suggest all sponsors put some sort of hard clause in their contracts, your team should at the very least be top 3 in your own battlegroup before they send you to a tournament.  Shaman has a very high skill cap right now, Hafu needs to stick to her druid as she was pressured from start to finish.

Duelist Going For Gladiator (Rogue/Mage/Priest) vs TeamEG (Rogue/Lock/Shaman): 0-3

The opposite of the first series, as Azael demonstrated exactly how to beat RMP as RLS.  Much better defensive stops to prevent pressure on shaman, Kollectiv's shocks and grounding totems made Hafu looked like a total amatuer.  Zyz is also the best defensive rogue in the game, and compliments a warlock much better than Yog's flashy offensive plays.

To be fair, DGFG is almost as out of shape as Fnatic.  In round 3 they wiped out rogue/retribution paladin/priest in desperation, and got Azael to 5% before the warlock hero was able to teleport away, gets healed to full and proceed to land his nuke on Emolol.  I was wondering why didn't they run with this comp from the start?  Did they really believe their RMP was a real factor in this tournament?

DGFG should scrap their washed-up RMP altogether and go with rogue/retribution paladin/priest as their main team rest of this tournament.  They can play zerg the priest as well as any cleave can against RMPs, and they have a much better chance against DK/BM/Paladin and Rogue/Lock/Shaman with the cleave comp.  Try this tomorrow and thank me later guys, you may not win the whole thing but you will definitely make some noise.

SK-US (Rogue/Mage/Priest) vs Pandemic (DK/Warlock/Druid): 3-2

Serennia-sama wondered why didn't Pandemic go with DK/Rogue/Priest against RMP, and I had the same question.  The series really wasn't as close as the score may have suggested. All five matches Pookz the mage managed to shut down both DK and warlock, and SK-US got too many clean easy swaps onto Kintt.  All five matches Kintt went below 5% and stayed there for quite some time, in two of those matches he managed to pick himself back up and they eventually outlasted Realz the priest's mana pool, the other two he went down.  

The final match saw some very good pressure on Kintt early before SK-US swapped to the Pandemic DK, got him low and forced him to blow all the defensive CDs.  They swapped to Kintt again and forced him to play keep away before swapping to the warlock for the kill, not before a reset allowing Realz the priest to get drinks off.  SK had full control the entire way.

No, that is not how this match-up is supposed to go down.  Watching Another/Inflame vs AAA Nawak, I know DK/lock can put out so much more pressure and defensive stops for their druid.  Throw all your CCs and interrupts on the mage, full DPS on the rogue, wear them down slowly.  Didn't Pandemic study the ESL Invitation Week 2 footage if they chose to run DK/Warlock/Druid against RMP?  SK-US's rogue had very little pressure until his priest went out of mana, and he had too easy of a time to stick to Kintt.  

You are probably not going to kill the rogue until priest is low on mana, but Another/Inflame still produced burst chains that forced the rogue to play very defensively, and sometimes killed him outright coupled with a strangulate or spell lock on the priest.  I did not see the same pressure from Shinaniganz and Beastlol, they played soft and did not protect the paint, they allowed Enforcer to drive to the hoop whenever he wanted.  You gotta be a lot more physical than that!

Shinaniganz needs to step up his game as he was left open most of those series, and he didn't look like the dominant TR warlock who had perfect peels AND dished out immense damage pressure.  It is probably because of LAN jitters, I know you can play much better Shani, don't let me down!

Ensidia (Rogue/Mage/Priest) vs Emazing (DK/BM Hunter/Paladin) (0-3)

Let's see here, you know DK/BM/Paladin dominated the Koreans, you know you are going to run into the only American team that actually qualified for the regionals running PHD (when most gave it up for shadow cleave, Serennia-sama included).  Twix the hunter hero has been around forever and he has great talents around him (Payce aka Ramius has a super high SAT score and easily on Sck's level, it just took him a very long time to find superstar teammates).  I even warned every RMP about this team in my preview.

What did Ensidia do?  They walked into the series without a game plan at all, and lost 0-3 without any resistance whatsoever.  Hydra never had a chance against DK/BM hunter zerg. Did they practice against this comp before the tournament?  Did they watch ESL Invitational Week 2 when X6tence ran the same comp, took a 2-0 lead against RIP before RIP swapped out their priest for druid and won the next 3 games?  

No practice, no backup plan, and it is laughable Europeans actually complained about the DK/BM/Paladin comp.  Both HON and SK-Asia already got as close as 2-3 against Spitfire in Korea running the same comp, they actually prepared for it and I fully expect them to overcome it by global finals with hard practice.  If you can't find a team to practice against, at least have your MVP practice a different healer.  Heck, just read WOM, I blogged about the exact same match-up a few days ago.  Did Ensidia really believe they could walk into this series cold and win?  If that is their attitude, they won't win anything here on American soil.

Complexity probably has the best chance against Emazing, as Sodah should still be a capable druid.  I still believe Ensidia can get out of this 0-1 hole tomorrow and advance to the finals, but they really need to respect their opponent and get a better coach. 
     
184 comments
Godsmak
Godsmak Jun 5, 2009 at 11:57 pm
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I'm the mother******* king round' here. King Kong aint got nuthin on me.

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p.s. lol @ ensidia
Power
Power Jun 6, 2009 at 12:02 am
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skzNk
skzNk Jun 6, 2009 at 12:02 am
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THA3L91
THA3L91 Jun 6, 2009 at 1:07 am
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I don't believe that they are overhyped; they definitely are the best RMP in this tournament and you'll see that when every other RMP has to face the tearjerker that is eMg. It's just exactly what Ming said. They let their egos get the best of them, or at least Hydra did, and they tanked. It's sad to see easily the best priest in the world fail so horribly, especially in front of 500,000+ people.

I'm totally rooting for Ensidia to win this and make a comeback, but this was just so disappointing.
Nezda
Nezda Jun 6, 2009 at 1:57 am
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Subparbdf
Subparbdf Jun 6, 2009 at 3:19 am
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Dude, the 500,000 people thing was a joke...
Sharf
Sharf Jun 6, 2009 at 5:52 am
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Lyuze
Lyuze Jun 6, 2009 at 5:51 am unhide comment
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Sharf
Sharf Jun 6, 2009 at 5:54 am
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Why American try to run RMP:

because were a hegemon and we can.
Flicky
Flicky Jun 6, 2009 at 6:46 am
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lolz, it was Inflame and Another playing on those characters. It was confirmed on the last show. They traced IPs and checked their UIs and got matches.

Ming never makes accusations, he just has awesome sources.
Yiska
Yiska Jun 6, 2009 at 8:44 am
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They tracerooted and compared their keybinds lyuze. It was definitely another and inflame.

I agree on SK-EU and eDwags being better RMPs as of right now.
Lyuze
Lyuze Jun 6, 2009 at 9:03 am
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Hmmmm...

I'm inclined to believe you because you talk quite a bit of sense...
On the other hand your a dirty Ret Paladin.

So question: What the hell is happening now? Have Inflame/Another/Azox been disqualified?
Yiska
Yiska Jun 6, 2009 at 9:13 am
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Sickology is disqualified. Another and Inflame may play their teams (like another did this week) but they have to accept a punishment which the community chooses. (like an interview with inflame)
Lyuze
Lyuze Jun 6, 2009 at 9:32 am
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=/

Sucks... well a bit but it is a 'fun' tournament =D
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shindofivezorz Jun 6, 2009 at 12:05 am
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Madagascar
Madagascar Jun 6, 2009 at 12:06 am
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Duelist Going For Gladiator (Rogue/Mage/Priest) vs Fnatic (Rogue/Lock/Shaman): 0-3

typo
Subparbdf
Subparbdf Jun 6, 2009 at 12:12 am
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yagu
yagu Jun 6, 2009 at 12:23 am
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"The Fnatic team looked as out of shape as Jared "Noktyn" Fogle's 2008 Pandemic team"


Pandemic would be much better off sponsoring an eating team, maybe then they could actually win at something.
Troldetom
Troldetom Jun 6, 2009 at 2:50 am
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Kintt/Noktyn/Caal would be the dominant 3v3 comp.
tautology
tautology Jun 6, 2009 at 1:35 am
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damn bro something smells burned in here
Nautik
Nautik Jun 6, 2009 at 8:28 am
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Cooldown
Cooldown Jun 6, 2009 at 12:12 am
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dk bm lichborne bestial wrath zerg outplayed
StoneDrunk
StoneDrunk Jun 6, 2009 at 12:13 am
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HAHA YISKA.

EMG OVER ENSIDIA 3-0.

If Pally/Hunter/DK is such a strong counter to RMP why didn't one finish in the EU top 8 during the TR?

In addition why did x6 fail to win even 1 game in the ESL Online?

?????????????

?????????????

get worked.
Cooldown
Cooldown Jun 6, 2009 at 12:14 am
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if you dont see why a bm hunter and a dk with lichborne and freedom and ibf dont hard counter pmr i dont really know what to tell you
StoneDrunk
StoneDrunk Jun 6, 2009 at 12:23 am
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It is a strong counter. DK/Paladin/X teams countered RMP pre-patch. what im saying is that Korean and US TRs are alike but EUs is crowded with RMP. Everyone is saying that the EU is just full of amazing RMPs that just outplay the DK/pally teams then you come over and get 3-0'd by a US team?

I dont really see why you would down vote my comment. You clearly didn't read it correctly.

FFS x6 lost to RMP in the ESL Online and those RMPs were even on Ensidia's level.
Madagascar
Madagascar Jun 6, 2009 at 12:25 am
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StoneDrunk
StoneDrunk Jun 6, 2009 at 12:27 am
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Still, the other hunter team in ESL went 0-2 too, one against RMP.
Cooldown
Cooldown Jun 6, 2009 at 2:27 am
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so basically you got trolled by the european players who come on gameriot and brag about how good their rmps are to get under peoples' skin

youre right, i did miss that, didnt think anyone was that dumb
StoneDrunk
StoneDrunk Jun 6, 2009 at 4:08 am
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i dont think im getting trolled by anyone. You are just a tool. This is why.


Ensidia is the best RMP in the world. There is no doubt about that. But pretending that the EU ladder is dominated by RMP only because you guys are ALL so good at it, is just stupid.

You aren't trolling and you are a nerd.
Cooldown
Cooldown Jun 6, 2009 at 2:44 pm
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i know im not trolling but yiska and the rest of the euros who come on gr and talk **** to americans are, and they got you hook line and sinker
THA3L91
THA3L91 Jun 6, 2009 at 1:09 am
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I don't even consider it a counter. It's more like an auto-loss-here's your dignity.
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nzgs Jun 6, 2009 at 4:22 am
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3.1 aura mastery paladin + BM hunter is a totally different proposition to the old comp with survival hunter. Weaker overall, but better at facerolling RMP. It's pretty sad that I even have to explain this.

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Yiska
Yiska Jun 6, 2009 at 8:46 am
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nzgs said
3.1 aura mastery paladin + BM hunter is a totally different proposition to the old comp with survival hunter. Weaker overall, but better at facerolling RMP. It's pretty sad that I even have to explain this.

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Thank you.
Albundyx
Albundyx Jun 6, 2009 at 7:10 am
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HAHA YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO LAUGH EVERY EUROPEAN IN THE FACE

EMG TOTALLY OUTPLAYED ENSIDIA 3-0

the reason pally/hunter/dk didn't finish in the eu top 8 was that it wasnt a counter which was proven in hanover when hunters played survival, this however is with a BM hunter and is a totally diffrent comp and is a complete joke when it comes to skill or playstyle like everyone saw.

Why did all american fail to win even 1 tournament for 2 years?

?????????????????????????
?????????????????????????

Something cool.
StoneDrunk
StoneDrunk Jun 6, 2009 at 12:33 pm
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technically EU hasn't won a 3.0 tournament either. Trade Chat All Stars won Phili but that doesn't really count. So we did win 1 tournament in 2 years. Probably more if i felt like looking.

Also if somebody would correct me if im wrong, but wasn't the final week of the TR played on 3.1 with aura mastery?

Sadly nobody has answered the final part of my question which was why are the pally/dk/hunter teams in the ESL Invitational 0-4 if pally/hunter/dk is such a hard counter to RMP. They should have been able to beat at least one RMP, no?

I said nothing about getting outplayed, simply Ensidia may be overhyped.
Albundyx
Albundyx Jun 6, 2009 at 1:54 pm
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technically EU won the very first 3,0 tournament in montreal and then in hannover where no american team got past grp stage and philly was american regionals your big clown stop making a fool out of yourself, ESL Invitational was a rogue/mage/druid vs dk/h/p they lost the two first rounds as RMP due it was too hard of a counter so they switched healer to a druid.
StoneDrunk
StoneDrunk Jun 6, 2009 at 1:56 pm
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yeah complexity and serennia are americas best.

thats like having x6 come to a tourament and acting like they the best EU team ever.
DanKiwi
DanKiwi Jun 6, 2009 at 12:13 am
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