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by Jasi, Level 63
Last updated at June 17, 2008, 12:39 am
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Having spent Saturday and Sunday completely occupied with a wedding, I was only around for a handful of the matches - but I did catch Inactive blow up about the nerd sponsors and boy it was well worth sitting around for. Putting a face to the name Serennia was quite entertaining as well. Overall though, I feel the tournament was broadcasted well, commentated well and was quite a reverse step from the direction WoW was heading as a E-sports competitor.
Today I had the opportunity to speak with two members of GotGames East AKA "BG9 Killers", Lycra and Cyberpsycho, and they shared their huge experience with MLG this weekend where they accomplished a huge feat of absolutely destroying almost all of the competition that BG9 had to offer. Neither of the team members could get ahold of a huge MVP in the tournament, Sodah, but hopefully I will catch up with him by Wednesday so stay tuned for that. Thanks to gotgame.com for the great team photo.

Jasi: Before we start, how did all three of you come together as a team?
Lycera: Cyberpsycho and I are RL friends, and as for how we got Sodah, cyberpsycho and I knew he lived in California for MLG so we talked to him on his server detheroc and he was a very nice person and not elitist at all. He said he would come and do it with us and we practiced on the TR about 3 weeks before the MLG.
CP: We have played with a ton of druids on TR and live and sodah is by far the best one we have played with.
Jasi: So you're telling me that as a team, you only had 3 weeks total of experience pre-MLG to practice together? That definitely says something...
Lycra: Yes, we did very good the first two days of the TR. We held first and took a 2 day break and ended up in second. We farmed SK gaming 12-2 on the TR.
Jasi: Ouch. Do you think that a lack of playtime with each other in comparison to most of the other teams was detrimental to your overall success at MLG?
CP: We wanted to try out other comps but we stuck with our mains cause we didn't really have time to learn new setups. I play a lock, and have 2300 level experience on him, but didn't feel comfortable playing him this tournament.
Lycra: As you can see at MLG, SK-Gaming ran Warrior/resto shaman/druid because they felt their set up was terrible against ours and they had no chance.
Jasi: So you feel that their makeup was relative to their experience playing against you on the TR?
Lycra: I really believe so. I think if we had more time to play together probably 2-3 months we would be very good to compete to a top position.
CP: They couldn't beat us on the TR so they tried to go for a hard counter and it really failed.
Jasi: What team(s) do you think was your biggest challenge? Any surprise performances by any of your competitors?
Lycra: I really thought we would have trouble against Team Pandemic because of their experience at lans, but Frag Dominant by far.
CP: I would say that FD did a really good job of playing multiple comps. Most teams tried to counter comp us and failed because they couldn't play the other classes well, but FD was playing very well with every setup they played.
Jasi: It seems like they actually had a pretty big advantage knowing ahead of time that you would be stuck with Rogue/Rogue/Druid against them and thus geared accordingly. Do you think it was your lack of versatility that hurt you in the end and costed you the matches against Frag Dominant, or perhaps strategy problems?
Lycra: We never really got to practice against Rogue/Warrior/Druid on the TR at all. None were queuing and our strategy was last minute.
Jasi: So it seems that the lack of play time caught up to you at this point then. You did find the right strategy near the end in zerging Spoh, what do you think went wrong in the final match?
Lycra: The final match we did the same thing but Azael just peeled way more.
CP: A little bit of RNG came into play as well, but they still played great so im not trying to take anything away from them. One of the things that happened was I shadow step kidney shotted spoh in caster and it was dodged.
Jasi: Yikes, that's a huge dodge.
Lycra: Yeah, it really is. On that final match when it was 2v2 rogue/warrior(FD) vs druid/rogue(GGE) I believe RNG was in their favor. I 5 point kidney shotted the warrior but he RESISTED and if he would of trinketed i would of blinded..... He just had to trinket because I would get away and help Sodah out and he could of gotten a few ticks off. I really feel that if we had a Mage on the rostor though, we could have won.
Jasi: What would you have done differently if you could replay the matches?
Lycra: Stay on spoh the entire game instead of rushing down the rogue like game 1&2, and playing much more aggressively in general.
Jasi: Being that this was your first LAN experience, what were your initial impressions of the live scene versus playing at home?
CP: Playing live is very fun, it is great to meet the other players. Most of the people at MLG were very fun to be around.
Lycra: At first I was very nervous but at the end I got use to it. It was great to meet some of the players we have been playing with and against.
Jasi: Did you run into any of the more "E-Famous" players such as Serennia, Inactive, Neilyo, Noktyn or Hafu/Glickz?
Lycra: I thought serennia would be rambling his mouth talking crap but he was quiet... I thought the same with neilyo but he was a very nice person and gave me FREE TIPZ. After we beat SK gaming Serennia didn't want to talk to anybody and that was poor sportsmanship on his part. Neilyo on the other hand had GREAT sportsmanship compared to serenniaLOL.
CP: I had a great shot with me and Nokytyn after the match.

Lycra: I also thought ming was lying about the Hafu/Glick relationship but I really guess he wasn't. It's VERY REAL. It seemed hafu would want to kiss Glickz but he would just turn away LOL.
Glorin was probably one of the most down to earth people though. Even with serennia raging on him he kept his cool.
Was Inactive the kevin federline looking kid with the BIG WHITE TEE? I actually never met him. He was with his little "I AINT GOT NO NERD SPONSOR" entourage.
Jasi: So now that you successfully downed the majority of BG9's best teams, what do you think about all the hype? It seems like it's time to encourage sponsors to look elsewhere...
Lycra:I think its all mods now days honestly. Sodah/cyberpsycho and I have been playing without mods on the TR.
CP: Yeah I'm honestly not that impressed with bg9.
Jasi: So you both feel that BG9 is mostly comprised of players carried by mods?
CP: No matter what battle group you go to you will find great teams and players.
Lycra: Well if DGFG had mods they would definitely be in the top spots honestly. They are some of the greatest players I have ever seen. It is just hard to counterspell without focus frames or ANYTHING. Celex even admitted to us that without mods it was hard for him to do anything. He is the greatest mage I have ever faced... I think once you get use to mods it is just hard to play without them.
Jasi: Thanks for the interview, and good luck in future tournaments.

169 comments
DeadLy Jun 17, 2008 at 12:46 am
+1 votes
The second picture of noktyn and cp defines this phrase: "Life must be hard as a pro-gamer."
Sangrado Jun 17, 2008 at 9:04 am
+2 votes
Yeah cos about 99% of American people are normal weight. The 1% of overweight people are just WoW nerds.
faction Jun 17, 2008 at 7:15 pm
+1 votes
i was incredibly impressed with those human rogue getting sapped and subsequently trinketing them
yog Jun 20, 2008 at 6:18 am
+0 votes
guys guys i play with lycra see he delayed us for 2 hours, US meaning we play together and since he did well at mlg this automatically makes me good as well even though im just a huge noob that belongs in the 1900s XD
NoblemanPyrrho Jun 20, 2008 at 6:26 am
+1 votes
yog getting farmed by the mighty battlegroup of shadowburn!? (conquered previously by faction and gnomerogue)
Invox Jun 17, 2008 at 12:52 am
+10 votes
glickz just didn't want some on camera statutory rape evidence.
Didy Jun 17, 2008 at 12:53 am
+4 votes
FFFUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Zilea Jun 17, 2008 at 12:56 am
-1 votes
Jasi, you really should have interrogated these guys harder and asked them these questions:
1) Do you think the game is fine in its current state that a team like yourselves can run a combo that uses 2 of the same classes with a druid healer and succeed?
2) What is your team's opinion on the serious lack of any paladin healers or resto shaman healers at MLG? And what about the lack of priest healers with exception to PMR and teams that had, well, druids themselves on it?
3) Do you think druids need to be nerfed? If so, what would be your team's recommendation on possible nerfs?
4) Is cyclone over the top or is it just the HoTs?
Sorry to sound like a jackass but it was pretty evident that druids were the way to go when every team except for three used a druid. It was also pretty sad how badly pandemic got rolled. Clearly, their use of a paladin healer and their lack of use of a druid healer killed them.
1) Do you think the game is fine in its current state that a team like yourselves can run a combo that uses 2 of the same classes with a druid healer and succeed?
2) What is your team's opinion on the serious lack of any paladin healers or resto shaman healers at MLG? And what about the lack of priest healers with exception to PMR and teams that had, well, druids themselves on it?
3) Do you think druids need to be nerfed? If so, what would be your team's recommendation on possible nerfs?
4) Is cyclone over the top or is it just the HoTs?
Sorry to sound like a jackass but it was pretty evident that druids were the way to go when every team except for three used a druid. It was also pretty sad how badly pandemic got rolled. Clearly, their use of a paladin healer and their lack of use of a druid healer killed them.
Zilea Jun 17, 2008 at 1:13 am
+1 votes
yeah i guess that's what this world needs: more complacent people like you to just run with the show.
Sorry, but a world where no one complains about injustices is a world I don't wanna live in. This is analogous to balance issues in WoW.
Sorry, but a world where no one complains about injustices is a world I don't wanna live in. This is analogous to balance issues in WoW.
xarrio Jun 17, 2008 at 1:06 am
+1 votes
yep pandemic was doomed to lose as soon as they picked paladin
horpse Jun 17, 2008 at 1:30 am
+1 votes
Your likening of the current state of the paladin class in 2v2 and 3v3 arena to an injustice is rather sickening.
Zilea Jun 17, 2008 at 1:47 am
+1 votes
Believe me, if everyone was like you, paladins wouldn't even be a class anymore. They'd just be deleted.
Your passiveness on this issue makes you complicit to the massive imbalances in WoW.
Your passiveness on this issue makes you complicit to the massive imbalances in WoW.
Goner Jun 17, 2008 at 2:30 am
+1 votes
PVP on live realms doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if paladins suck when you have the option to play any class on the test server and at tournaments.
TehJerk Jun 17, 2008 at 11:11 am
+2 votes
yes it does, and its so assanine to say it doesnt. like anyone can play a class for a week and master it. maybe if the rest of your team can cover your ass and youre some robot dummy cog in that machiine, but if that team truly relies on your play being above and beyond, especially as a healer, then i'd think the guy who has been playing his class for years instead of a weeks, is the player you want :P
its actually a big joke that the dev's are encouraging roll any class to compete...ok so the answer is everyone roll restos? its just such a sad excuse for terrible balancing....fukk you kalgan.
its actually a big joke that the dev's are encouraging roll any class to compete...ok so the answer is everyone roll restos? its just such a sad excuse for terrible balancing....fukk you kalgan.
Vir Jun 18, 2008 at 10:04 am
+1 votes
Your passiveness on this issue makes you complicit to the massive imbalances in WoW.
Jesus ******* christ man, it's a video game. Every paladin occasionally QQ's, even me. But for ***** sake, get over it already. Nobody wants to read that crap in every goddamn post.
Favara Jun 17, 2008 at 1:40 am
+1 votes
No one forced Pandemic to pick paladin, they had several weeks to practice other classes.
Goner Jun 17, 2008 at 12:53 pm
+1 votes
Several weeks is enough time to learn to play any class competently. If they're unable to learn the optimal class, bring someone that can.
Zilea Jun 17, 2008 at 5:45 pm
+1 votes
Goner: Have you rerolled a class and in 2 weeks of playing it on the TR mastered it and are competent enough to compete with those that have been playing a resto druid for 2 years?
Don't think so.
I don't think, for example, someone can reroll a paladin and master it in 2 weeks. Especially with the difficulty of succeeding with the class in its current state.
Don't think so.
I don't think, for example, someone can reroll a paladin and master it in 2 weeks. Especially with the difficulty of succeeding with the class in its current state.
Vir Jun 18, 2008 at 10:08 am
+1 votes
I don't think, for example, someone can reroll a paladin and master it in 2 weeks. Especially with the difficulty of succeeding with the class in its current state.
You can master a paladin and not succeed, which is why your statement makes no sense.
As far as can someone master a holy paladin in 2 weeks, they have the least amount of 'stuff to do' of all the healers. All there is to master is stupid tricks like faking heals to draw out CS's, and knowing to BOS to break CC. Other common sense stuff like "When to use HOJ" or "When to switch targets" is pretty much universal.
Holy Paladins have the least depth of any healing class.
You can master a paladin and not succeed, which is why your statement makes no sense.
As far as can someone master a holy paladin in 2 weeks, they have the least amount of 'stuff to do' of all the healers. All there is to master is stupid tricks like faking heals to draw out CS's, and knowing to BOS to break CC. Other common sense stuff like "When to use HOJ" or "When to switch targets" is pretty much universal.
Holy Paladins have the least depth of any healing class.
hmmmmmm Jun 17, 2008 at 1:38 am
+1 votes
how many teams never used a rogue? nihilum, who else? I think I remember rhae playing a rogue for 2 games in one of their matches, don't think HR did.
Jasi Jun 17, 2008 at 2:37 am
+0 votes
Mostly just lack of space and TLDR zil. MAybe when I get ahold of Sodah for wednesday.
Hubris12 Jun 17, 2008 at 5:48 am
+1 votes
Cherez is an excellent rogue. However, he finds the class to be boring and dull to play. And I think they were confident in their setup to play it all the way through the tournament, even when Spoh decided to run dual melee against them.
[Edit]And I completly agree with Zilea about Paladin<> Druid issues. Well, at least there was one paladin this tournament, right? Things are starting to lighten up.
Also, you could really see it on Sck's face how much he enjoyed playing a Paladin there. Not.
[Edit]And I completly agree with Zilea about Paladin<> Druid issues. Well, at least there was one paladin this tournament, right? Things are starting to lighten up.
Also, you could really see it on Sck's face how much he enjoyed playing a Paladin there. Not.
Roma Victor Jun 17, 2008 at 7:43 am
+4 votes
What is your team's opinion on the serious lack of any paladin healers
No one, and especially not the devs, cares about this issue anymore. I appreciate your perseverance but at some point you have to cut your losses and move on. Paladin is a dead class. If you liked pally you would flat out love priest- it is a blast and you don't feel like you're swimming upstream when healing.
No one, and especially not the devs, cares about this issue anymore. I appreciate your perseverance but at some point you have to cut your losses and move on. Paladin is a dead class. If you liked pally you would flat out love priest- it is a blast and you don't feel like you're swimming upstream when healing.
Zilea Jun 17, 2008 at 5:47 pm
-1 votes
In other words blizzard doesn't care that paladins are worthless and tournaments are becoming heavily-one sided in terms of healing classes that can compete?
In other words: why doesn't blizzard just delete every healer class except for druid in 3v3? It's pretty obvious that you can do literally any combo with a druid healer.
In other words: why doesn't blizzard just delete every healer class except for druid in 3v3? It's pretty obvious that you can do literally any combo with a druid healer.
Roma Victor Jun 17, 2008 at 8:04 pm
+1 votes
In other words: why doesn't blizzard just delete every healer class except for druid in 3v3
They basically did and the recent tourneys prove it. But priests are still viable, though not at druid levels. We're trying RLP on live since it farms RMP pretty heavily and so far it's been great fun.
They basically did and the recent tourneys prove it. But priests are still viable, though not at druid levels. We're trying RLP on live since it farms RMP pretty heavily and so far it's been great fun.
Zilea Jun 17, 2008 at 9:53 pm
+1 votes
Priest teams that aren't PMR and don't include a druid are terrible. My paladin/rogue/warrior team can farm any priest team that doesn't fit said mold.
Roma Victor Jun 17, 2008 at 10:18 pm
+1 votes
Priest teams that aren't PMR and don't include a druid are terrible. My paladin/rogue/warrior team can farm any priest team that doesn't fit said mold.
I suppose we'll find out soon enough. Our priest came back from a six month hiatus but it's been a blast so far.
I suppose we'll find out soon enough. Our priest came back from a six month hiatus but it's been a blast so far.
Frst Jun 18, 2008 at 3:00 am
+1 votes
I don't mean to be a complete dick but your team has a significant amount of PvE gear for all of your players which yields pretty gross damage on a cloth class.
Zilea Jun 18, 2008 at 3:02 am
+1 votes
my rogue is Kazel and he uses, like all rogues, about 250 resilience. Hoodrych is my warrior and he uses almost all pvp gear. Kazel btw doesn't have warglaives.
gummy Jun 17, 2008 at 8:57 am
+1 votes
Isn't this the first time noktyn sck n douja played in a 3v3 tournament?
fittshader Jun 17, 2008 at 9:00 am
+1 votes
Zilea thx for showing that Jasi really is something when it comes to interviewing because those questions were ******* awful. why? Because they have been answered over and over and over and over again for the last 2 seasons!
Do you honestly think that ANY of those quesions would be answered in a different way than everyone else did on Jasi's early interviews?
Do you honestly think that ANY of those quesions would be answered in a different way than everyone else did on Jasi's early interviews?
TehJerk Jun 17, 2008 at 11:04 am
+0 votes
i dont think asking them those questions makes much sense. they are just players in the current ****-hole of balance, and doing their best to win a tourney. you need to grille kalgan and the dev's, they created this imbalance, held a big tourney with this extreme imbalance, and havent fixed that imbalance for months. its probably one of the longest periods of OP'ness, and extreme inequity Blizzard has let go that i can think of.
it just makes me laugh how Droods have the nerve to QQ about feral given the dominance of Resto's, and the gimpness of some healer classes in that venue.
in other words, you have a right to be pissed, but you should be ****'ing on kalgan and the dev's, iinstead of players who are just trying to win money.
it just makes me laugh how Droods have the nerve to QQ about feral given the dominance of Resto's, and the gimpness of some healer classes in that venue.
in other words, you have a right to be pissed, but you should be ****'ing on kalgan and the dev's, iinstead of players who are just trying to win money.
Charlie Jun 17, 2008 at 7:32 pm
+1 votes
Loaded questions are the key to a successful interview... Those aren't hard questions, they are just questions Paladins use to channel their righteous indignation.

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