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by Ming, Level 68
Last updated at August 11, 2008, 12:57 am
While Serennia-sama became a notable figure in the World of Warcraft community by getting an Ashkandi (when it was the symbol of status for every warrior) on his hunter, he wasn't the biggest loot ***** by any stretch of the imagination.  Over the past a few years we have seen hunters/paladins with thunderfury's.  During the TBC beta I had the misfortune of fighting a BM hunter with that sword, using snake traps he simply outmuscled warriors/rogues.  At level 67 vs 67, he was capable of killing me in 10 seconds with that sword, not fun.  Protection paladin with old school reckoning and thunderfury was also almost impossible for rogues.

Still, nothing beats rogues with legendary bows!  Laynd of Mannoroth and Analogkid of Area 52 got Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury from Kil'jaeden and you bet the hunters in their guild are not happy.  Even the hokage of the rogue community, someone as biased as you will ever be when it comes to the benefit of our class, has to shake his head in disgust.  It is a true disgrace to our village and it is incredible that a guild can kill Kil'jaeden and still have a reward system this flawed.

Mutilate vs Shadowstep Toe-to-Toe

Got this note from Ghettible from Sen'jin about his experience toe-to-toeing one of the best mutilate rogues in the U.S. 

I played Rngrofl/Luen last night with my shadowstep rogue/dreamstate druid two's.  I started on the druid, rngrofl started on me, so I switched to him.  My druid had been playing the druid class for his second day now and we were sitting in the 2100 bracket.  After about 50 minutes of the rogues hitting each other and neither druid dipping below 70% mana, we called it quits and let them have their 7 points.  This point of this pm?  I don't believe mutilate to be any better than shs.  Throughout the entire 50 minutes i could count the number of mutilates he landed on me while i wasn't in a kidney on one hand.  There must have been 20 forced kidney attempts from the front that he tried while i had ghostly up.  When he finally does land a gouge->ks, my druid is always there for a full cyclone.  I, at this time, would not say mut is better than shs for toe to toeing other rogues.
- Ghettible

This is pretty much what I experienced toe-to-toeing shadowstep rogues as mutilate.  Granted Rngrofl does not have master poisoner and is combat mutilate with very little poison talents, but with subtlety mutilate your sustained damage is far behind shadowstep rogue's.  Landing kidney shot's and stacking poison on a rogue with 45% dodge/parry with mongoose, 60% with ghostly, not to mention two evasions is easier than done.  Abolish poison goes both ways.  There is also cloak to clean up the excessive poison stacks.

And in the end, a full energy kidney shot from a shadowstep rogue with a little druid assist DPS can drop me from 70% easily.  While bursts on shadowstep rogues that are not cheating too hard in resilience, always meets cheat death.  I am not convinced at equal skill/gear, mutilate can outmuscle shadowstep toe-to-toe.

What about rogue/priest?  Double Vengeful Gladiator Xpoze, who just picked up his warglaive, teamed up with Merciless Gladiator Wojo playing a priest, and took 1st spot in our BG quickly.  You can discredit them with the warglaive factor all you want, but their performance with standard PVP gear shouldn't be behind PVP gear mutilate rogue/priest's either.

Shadowstep may be boring, but it holds 95% of the market share for a reason.  It is just so much more flexible when it comes to target switches.  Being able to guard mages/druids also help a lot depend on the match-up.

Armor Penetration Change In WOTLK

Armor penetration is being changed to armor penetration rating in WOTLK.  The character tooltip is
"Increases Armor Pen by X.XX%" although I don't believe they have implemented the correct formula yet, so it is always 0.00% at the moment.

This is a great, great balance change.  Corrently armor penetration is incredible vs clothes, worthless vs heavy armor.  With the same amount of armor penetration stats, warriors get a much bigger damage boost on a rogue, than the rogue hitting him back.  By changing armor penetration into percentage will allow both classes to benefit from the stat equally.

I just hope expose armor and serrated blade will change accordingly as well.  5 point for 20% armor reduction, improved for 30%?  Serrated blade for 3% armor reduction?  One can only hope.

New Logo, Thanks Jasmineleaf

We received a ton of great logos, but Estel really liked the design done by Jasmineleaf.  She has much better tastes than me, so I let her make all the artistic decisions.  I think out of all the logos submitted, Jasmineleaf's work received most praises as well from Gameriot users, so it was an easy choice.

China 6 and US 2 in gold medal standings!  I know traditionally China held a higher gold medal count until the second week of the tournament, when track and field becomes a gold mine for the Americans.  Liu Xiang is having way too much pressure and coming back from an injury, it will be a miracle if he can repeat.  I guess we will find out.
     
112 comments
horpse
horpse Aug 11, 2008 at 1:01 am
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Maldazzar
Maldazzar Aug 11, 2008 at 1:04 am
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ghettible is one of the most predictably mediocre rogues i've ever played
Mortale
Mortale Aug 11, 2008 at 1:14 am
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Rng is a far and away better player than Ghettible.  I have no doubt that he's full of ****.
Salsa
Salsa Aug 11, 2008 at 1:05 am
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Yer dumb.
Vodka gave it to him because 3 hunters already have it.
Dats WoM4u.
You could learn it by the BIG ASS SCREENSHOT on their front page.
Zenaku
Zenaku Aug 11, 2008 at 1:18 am
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the other rogue got it over 2 hunters that did not have it.

the other 2 were applicants, but who am i to say what happens with loot in other peopls guilds? :P
Favara
Favara Aug 11, 2008 at 1:27 am
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they weren't applicants, they had been in the guild for 2 months.
Virtua
Virtua Aug 11, 2008 at 2:13 am
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Dominace
Dominace Aug 11, 2008 at 2:30 am
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It was a toss up between a Rogue who has been with the guild since Karazhan that played his role well, even on farm content OR two hunters who had been with the guild for a month that joined after the guild killed pre-nerf Muru.

Note: The 'Veteran' Hunter in the guild already had the bow.
Salsa
Salsa Aug 11, 2008 at 3:03 am
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You guys are probably the slowest people ever.
Nezda
Nezda Aug 11, 2008 at 4:19 am
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As I read it... All the hunters had Star Fury and the ones who didn't weren't on the raid that killed KJ that day.
Zath
Zath Aug 11, 2008 at 5:54 am
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Obviously they're talking about the other rogue who got it over two hunters, not the Vodka one who didn't have any hunters in the raid who needed it.
Fated
Fated Aug 11, 2008 at 4:15 pm
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You're the slow one man. There's two rogues listed, it's pretty obvious they aren't talking about the vodka rogue.
Salsa
Salsa Aug 11, 2008 at 4:50 pm
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Because I was talking about that one and all.
Slapnuts
Slapnuts Aug 11, 2008 at 1:05 am
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It is actually 6-3 right now with the swim relay winners getting gold. 

USA leads 11-9 overall

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/index
Ixarr
Ixarr Aug 11, 2008 at 1:14 am
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lOl@ the french swimmer hiding his face in the pool QQing
Favara
Favara Aug 11, 2008 at 1:25 am
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why is espn ranking by total of medals and not gold medals (the official medal count)?
Shoo
Shoo Aug 11, 2008 at 1:50 am
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on the espn page you can sort by whatever field you want.
Stonyman
Stonyman Aug 11, 2008 at 9:59 am
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rahandrizzle
rahandrizzle Aug 11, 2008 at 11:12 am
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china is dominating the gold medal count right now.

weightlifting though wtf?

lol
Jipper
Jipper Aug 11, 2008 at 1:07 am
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TaurenFTW
TaurenFTW Aug 11, 2008 at 1:13 am
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wars are getting ****** in WotLK : /
good thing i have a shaman alt
BEASTWOOD
BEASTWOOD Aug 11, 2008 at 1:20 am
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lol at new 6 second deep wounds. If you get out of combat now you can restealth right away eliminating half the purpose of it.
BEASTWOOD
BEASTWOOD Aug 11, 2008 at 2:30 am
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Favara
Favara Aug 11, 2008 at 1:21 am
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experts predict China will get more gold medals by a margin of 5 to 10.
Ixarr
Ixarr Aug 11, 2008 at 1:32 am
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What experts?
Also, how are they predicting this?
Zenaku
Zenaku Aug 11, 2008 at 1:44 am
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Ossirian
Ossirian Aug 11, 2008 at 4:42 am
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ancient chinese secret

fixed that for ya
Kyrali
Kyrali Aug 11, 2008 at 1:32 am
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First, the US is still ahead in the overall medal count. Second, I find it it interesting that despite your love of the game, you omitted any mention of the thrashing the US basketball team put on China today.

All this pales in comparison to the awesomeness that was the relay tonight. The French show once again that despite claims of 'crushing' the opposition, the still fail on virtually every level.
XI-boi
XI-boi Aug 11, 2008 at 1:34 am
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tokesh
tokesh Aug 11, 2008 at 1:35 am
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