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by Bodi, Level 44
Last updated at June 30, 2009, 9:59 pm
I would like to spend a little time addressing gaming stereotypes in WoW and in other genres in games. It's partly a response to some comments about how it's not possible to be "hip" in an "uncool" world.

I'll get this out of the way now: most World of Wacraft "geeks" are not really geeks at all. We are not mostly pimply, extremely thin or morbidly obese stereotypes living in our mom's basement. We are not rejects from Revenge of the Nerds. I addressed this in a previous blog but I'm writing this for emphasis and I feel that it needs to be said again. People who say this entry is "off topic" can **** off. I don't really care about PvE drama or this past weekend's regional results. Azael or Serennia can cover that much better than I can so I'm going to leave that to them. This is my field and I personally think that people like to read something a little different.

In my 4th entry I called on people to add me to their Digg, Facebook, MySpace and Twitter. The requests came and I accepted all of them. Do you know the average profile of the people who added me were? They were cool people. People with girlfriends and sex lives. People who love MMA and practice jujitsu. They were people who have a common hobby with me who share the same passion for life as they share for gaming. None of the people I have had the pleasure of talking to via my Facebook were stereotypes.

Sure, this was a couple of hundred people out of the many, many people who lurk on the site and never comment or make their presence known outside of a statistic in Google Analytics. But it doesn't matter. (I use that sentence a lot.) The people I've talked to in game and out of game have families, lives, classes to slack off in (both middle, high school and college).

We all have dreams, hopes, aspirations to what we want to do outside of the game we play. Sure, yes. We love to gossip over who's dick that one chick who plays a druid is sucking. We love hearing about beef between pro players in LAN tournaments. Hell, we even love to rag on people who are much more accomplished than we will ever be just to make ourselves feel better. We're human. It comes with the territory.

Yes. There are bad examples of what "gamers" are. People look at things such as this and jump into conclusions that this outdated, idiotic stereotype about people who play video games are. It's dumb. You know it, and I know it.

I remember one time I was chilling out in San Francisco with some of my girlfriend's friends and I was talking to this guy, 15, an FPS XBox 360 champ. He looked at me with shock and awe that I played World of Warcraft. His reasoning? "You seem too cool to play an MMO."

This needs to stop. The gaming community in general is looked upon derision and scorn because of the puerile behavior associated with introverted, socially-retarded, sexually frustrated come from a few and people jump into conclusions based on the most vocal ********. Every time someone comments that a female who happens to be a member of our community should "show tits or GTFO" it only reinforces the stereotype that all of those e-famous gamers are fighting against to make gaming legit in the mainstream.

Sure, okay. It's all in good fun. Sometimes, it's funny and it's awesome. Other times, not so much and people get hurt by it. Here's what I think people need to realize: the scorn and derision for gamers is not limited by the genre we happen to play. It's not limited by age, or education level or class. It's not limited by race or gender.

The evidence?

It's seen when you tell someone that you play something for a healthy chunk or your free time, and you're met with exchanged glances and funny looks. It's seen when you have that girlfriend who just doesn't understand your hobby and gives you an ultimatum between her and your gaming. It's seen when your parents would much rather see you run the streets and set things on fire than to be playing an MMO because of what they saw on the news about some dumbass in China who died because he played the game for 5 days straight without eating.

No, we're not like that. 12 million people playing a game means that the stereotype is dead. No, we're pretty cool actually. And, to address something else, I'd like to make something else clear: I am NOT the coolest mother****** playing this game, or any game.

I'm just a normal guy, just like all of you reading this. You want to know people cooler than me? Try Chris Nyugen, Manuel Nagele, Travis Easton, Caleb "Sagat" O'Leary, Nick Quirk, Patrick Moran, Rob Jones, Yin Liu, Christian Forr, Sam Cen, David Barton and Seth Lynch.  They're all good guys who you'd sit and have a beer with like anyone else and they'd all make a good wing man in the club, bookstore, library, mall, daycare center (if that's your thing) or wherever.

We all love playing, winning and being good at what we do. We have lives and we live them just like anyone else. It's not about what's "hip" or "not" it's about the love of what we do and to have fun.

And ****, if someone wants to hate on that. Well, all I can say about that is: ****. you. We'll keep doing our thing regardless. We'll keep it chill, we'll play our arena games, our PvE dungeons or even playing a ****ty game such as Aion.

P.S. If anyone's going to be at Anime Expo, hit me up. We'll sit back, chill out and **** peeps up in the gaming room.
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king_lennox
king_lennox Jul 1, 2009 at 10:23 pm
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so when are you scheduled to fight Alien again Brodi? i look forward to your 3rd encounter!
Vidra
Vidra Jun 30, 2009 at 10:03 pm unhide comment
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Capstone
Capstone Jul 1, 2009 at 12:03 am unhide comment
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Sharf
Sharf Jul 1, 2009 at 12:36 am
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I wish I could downvote Bodi blogs so they wouldnt be so inflated.

That being said, it was an interesting read. Anything optimistic on this website is a goddamn miracle.
Zenorta
Zenorta Jul 1, 2009 at 1:12 am
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You can do better? Pay attention to what he said in the article
treachy
treachy Jul 1, 2009 at 2:36 am
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Capstone is 100% correct.  If Jasi was removed for his writing then this guy should be axed after his last few articles.  This **** is miserable and I'd rather read Jasi's copy/paste from mmo-champion.  At least that way all the interesting stuff was pre-compiled for me.
Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 4:09 am
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Capstone said
This is the first article I have ever read on World of Ming where not only does the subject matter have absolutely no relevance to my interests, but the content in the article seems exceptionally contrived (this is a trend).

Sure, yes.  We love to gossip over who's dick that one chick who plays a druid is sucking.

seriously, i don't expect you to go out like ming or serennia, but at least jasi had the balls to take a shot at someone the right way if he was going to do it

this **** is worse than a jasi day
Wow. Comparing someone to Jasi. Original. Thanks for the unique pageview and comment. 
Yiska
Yiska Jul 1, 2009 at 4:15 am unhide comment
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Capstone
Capstone Jul 1, 2009 at 5:24 am
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Bodi said
Wow. Comparing someone to Jasi. Original. Thanks for the unique pageview and comment. 
i'll compare you to jasi

if jasi wanted to take a shot at hafu he'd have done it without being afraid of saying an 18 year old girl's name, hate to see a WoM blogger who is worse at drama than jasi.  you could take a lesson even from jasi's new articles (http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/World-of-Ming/My-Comprehensive-Response). and you'll notice at the beginning he talks about how the article will have no relation to WoW. this is because he wrote articles that were relevant to WoW

also, you're coherent and all, but his articles were better written and formatted, and let's be honest. even jasi wasn't a 1700 baddie and he wasn't even playing with wotlk inflation.
Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 5:40 am
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Capstone said
i'll compare you to jasi

if jasi wanted to take a shot at hafu he'd have done it without being afraid of saying an 18 year old girl's name, hate to see a WoM blogger who is worse at drama than jasi.  you could take a lesson even from jasi's new articles (http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/World-of-Ming/My-Comprehensive-Response). and you'll notice at the beginning he talks about how the article will have no relation to WoW. this is because he wrote articles that were relevant to WoW

also, you're coherent and all, but his articles were better written and formatted, and let's be honest. even jasi wasn't a 1700 baddie and he wasn't even playing with wotlk inflation.
I've written 10 articles. Every single one of them were relevant to WoW. All of them. If you can't see that than you're pretty dumb. I'm not going to copy what Ming/Serennia/Jasi do. Nah, not my style. If you miss Jasi so much stop inflating my numbers. You also know absolutely **** about my arena experience. Please, stick with what you know (which isn't much).
muon
muon Jul 1, 2009 at 6:55 am
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Poor article, poor at taking criticism, quick to anger. All round bad blogger.
Erase
Erase Jul 1, 2009 at 7:51 am
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You're a ******* idiot and so is Capstone.
muon
muon Jul 1, 2009 at 8:18 am
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Capstone
Capstone Jul 1, 2009 at 1:16 pm
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Bodi said
I've written 10 articles. Every single one of them were relevant to WoW. All of them. If you can't see that than you're pretty dumb. I'm not going to copy what Ming/Serennia/Jasi do. Nah, not my style. If you miss Jasi so much stop inflating my numbers. You also know absolutely **** about my arena experience. Please, stick with what you know (which isn't much).
You also know absolutely **** about my arena experience.

actually, you kind of posted a video blog detailing your experience followed by what some might consider a "PvP video".  plus, it's pretty easy to infer your history based off of how good or bad you are now (and you're pretty bad)

i don't miss jasi, but this is an article about why people shouldn't call other people nerds
Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 1:37 pm
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Capstone said
You also know absolutely **** about my arena experience.

actually, you kind of posted a video blog detailing your experience followed by what some might consider a "PvP video".  plus, it's pretty easy to infer your history based off of how good or bad you are now (and you're pretty bad)

i don't miss jasi, but this is an article about why people shouldn't call other people nerds
Hey man, like I said, thanks for the traffic. <3
dub
dub Jul 1, 2009 at 5:59 pm
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Bodi said
I've written 10 articles. Every single one of them were relevant to WoW. All of them. If you can't see that than you're pretty dumb. I'm not going to copy what Ming/Serennia/Jasi do. Nah, not my style. If you miss Jasi so much stop inflating my numbers. You also know absolutely **** about my arena experience. Please, stick with what you know (which isn't much).
Hint: stop answering to those comments. The stereotype isn't completely dead.

Some people don't get why you're here and never will. You're doing just fine.
drole
drole Jul 1, 2009 at 5:43 am
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"this is because he wrote articles that were relevant to WoW"

hahahhahhahahhahahhahah you must be ******* delusional. relevant if you hadn't played in months maybe.

also you're way off base.
Revel
Revel Jul 1, 2009 at 8:30 am
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Capstone said
i'll compare you to jasi

if jasi wanted to take a shot at hafu he'd have done it without being afraid of saying an 18 year old girl's name, hate to see a WoM blogger who is worse at drama than jasi.  you could take a lesson even from jasi's new articles (http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/World-of-Ming/My-Comprehensive-Response). and you'll notice at the beginning he talks about how the article will have no relation to WoW. this is because he wrote articles that were relevant to WoW

also, you're coherent and all, but his articles were better written and formatted, and let's be honest. even jasi wasn't a 1700 baddie and he wasn't even playing with wotlk inflation.
Capstone, if you believe that Bodi was taking a shot specifically at
one person with his vague drama reference, you have entirely missed the
point.  He just tossed out a random example, to lead into his next
point, and for some reason you became entirely fixated on that example
and raged out.  So really, what I want to ask you is, what has Hafu
done to deserve you as her rightous defender?



Was an interesting article, well structured, without overly long
abridged one sentence paragraphs that are constantly repeated.  i.e.
Nothing like Jasi's "must-fill-space" article style.  Agree or
Disagree, the writing was sound.
Dizko
Dizko Jul 1, 2009 at 10:46 am
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Jasi was not a good writer. Never did the proper research on articles he had no business writing not to mention his syntax and grammar was like reading a poorly translated Japanese movie script.
TeeKoo
TeeKoo Jul 1, 2009 at 6:00 am
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this **** is worse than a jasi day

Have to agree, Only Bodi blog that I have enjoyed is the video blog, because it was new and exciting, You are not funny, havent laughed once. I mean you have less experience than 95% of WoM readers and you blog about random stuff that no one cares about and compare it to wow etc. Mentioning wow doesnt make it a wow blog. I dont know why you are getting so many upvotes, but im sure I will get downvoted for the same reason. This kind of writing is something you write to a magazine  or at digg article, not on wom.
Yiska
Yiska Jul 1, 2009 at 6:18 am
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Well he's here to bring the morons for hits. That said I agree with you.
Pwyff
Pwyff Jul 1, 2009 at 6:59 am
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A FEW THINGS GENTLEMEN, AS I, PWYFF, DEFENDER OF HANDSOME, WILL COME TO THE AID OF SOMEONE SORT OF HANDSOME IN A RACIST SORT OF WAY:

Bodi's here to blog about things outside of the hardcore nerd perspective. I'd quote you something, but I'm not about to put effort into being a Defender Of Truth, Handsome and the Pwyffy Wa. Anyways, Ming was all like "sup doods, imma be needin' a social blogger to not make references to our little inside joke crap, because that totally just makes us a bunch of nerds." What he meant was that you ******* can get pretty 4chanish with your GR memes, and for anyone who wants to check out what's up-and-comin' in the World of Warcraft arena, they're hit with a solid wall of "ILY HAFU," "Y'ALL GOT WANGED," and "DRAIN HIS CHAKRA."
While I might not particularly enjoy the fact that he's not being as obnoxious as me, he does make it up by not being as obnoxious as me. He's also a little bit too politically correct, which worries the dude in me who's constantly looking for penis references.

IN OTHER NEWS:

Nerds are nerds because people can't keep up with the goddamn times. Back in the days, Role Playing Games were entirely associated with old school D&D ******** who sat in basements with their 20-sided dice, fermenting like old cheese with bad body odour. When the concept of Role Playing goes forward with technology, you get those same ******** buying computers with their mothers' credit card so that they can Role Play in a more.. convincing setting (IS MY BASEMENT NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU!?). In this sense 'gamers' are not actually stereotyped as ultra-baddies, but it's actually dudes who play Role Playing games, whereas douchebags who play NHL 2k9 all day long are the pinnacles of social awesomeness. For those ******** who are going to say that playing a sport game is technically "role" playing as Ovechkin or Crosby, my only answer is **** you and stop playing with semantics.

Either way, role playing has its own can of worms to open, as what can be suggested when people crave playing someone else? Typically the stereotype is that they're not 'satisfied' with the current life, and therefore they must reach into a digital world to be happy with themselves. On the other hand, crazy people role play all the time to get horny, so maybe that's not the case. On the other other hand (three hands here, keep up), there's the fact that people role play during sex because their current life is not too sexy (YOU PUT ON YOUR WALMART UNIFORM AND IMMA BE A BAAAAAAD BAG OF CANDY THAT KEEPS GETTING PUT DOWN IN THE WRONG SECTIONS). Either way, the stigma goes that anyone who plays an online role playing game just wants to be someone else while all the douchebags and social successes in the world are content with being themselves.

In all of this, the point comes down to this: there are sad ***** that work a 9 to 5 job every day of the week, and then blow all of their money over the weekend popping their collar, drinking $6 jaeger bombs and getting herpes from the poles they're grinding on. There are also sad ***** who ignore everything in their life to play a video game where they don't have to be themselves. Both of the above are weird as hell, but the first one is accepted into society whereas the second one isn't. My conclusion is this:

Nerds should pop their collar and hit a jaeger bomb every time they win an arena game. Society will be confused as all hell.

Nothing's going to change as long as the media only portray gamers as weird little social deviances, and that will only change when we kill anyone over 50 who still calls their godamn monitor their computer.
Yiska
Yiska Jul 1, 2009 at 7:44 am
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But why is that WoW players are said to be far more nerdy than let's say DAOC players have been. Also nobody is giving you as much **** when you say you played Baldur's gate I&II and enjoyed it. WoWhate seems to be the engine of the Antinerdtrain. Is it just because it's the biggest game playerbasewise?
Pwyff
Pwyff Jul 1, 2009 at 3:57 pm
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Couple things here:

Who the **** knows what DAOC or Baldur's Gate I & II is. The fact is, the only game that the general populace is AWARE of is World of Nerdcraft. Not only that but because WoW is the only game that people are generally aware of, media can focus on it as the epitome of loserness. They'd say something like "TODAY IN THE WORLD, SOME DUDE DIED PLAYING WORLD OF WARCRAFT," and everyone would be like "OH **** I KNOW THAT GAME." But if they reported "SOME GUY DIED PLAYING DAOC" everyone would be like "IS THAT... IS THAT A BOARD GAME!?" and then the TV station would /facepalm and be like "NO IT'S LIKE... IT'S LIKE WORLD OF WARCRAFT" and then the general population would poop themselves and be like "OH **** I KNOW THAT GAME."

Simply put, nobody's being picked on for playing World of Warcraft, it's just that World of Warcraft is basically synonymous with "MMORPG," and it's used whenever idiots don't know what they're talking about. Another example here might be when some dude shoots up a school, killing everyone. Turns out that the kid really liked to play Team Fortress 2 and Left 4 Dead. Can you guess how the media will phrase it? "This kid totally loved to play shooter games like Counter-Strike, which is what some of the other high school killers totally loved to play."

WoW is to give context to a clueless world, and that clueless world, in return, believes that WoW is not so much a reference to the greater genre of MMO, but that it's actually... WoW that's the ultra-nerdiest of games.
Yiska
Yiska Jul 1, 2009 at 4:09 pm
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Well even among gamers, WoW is the epitome of nerdism. All the cool CS kids go "lawl wow n3rd get a lyfe" much more than in any other game. Did CS kids decide that we are soulless zombies because the media did?
Trixe
Trixe Jul 1, 2009 at 2:40 pm
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Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 1:52 pm
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"This kind of writing is something you write to a magazine  or at digg article, not on wom."

/facepalm
Sleek
Sleek Jul 1, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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Bodi said
"This kind of writing is something you write to a magazine  or at digg article, not on wom."

/facepalm
It's too hard to even sort the trolls from the genuinely retarded around here (the difference is debatable), so I'd try not to worry about it.  You know you can write and you know the standard wasn't very high when you got here, so obviously your blogs are fine. 
Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 2:08 pm
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Sleek said
It's too hard to even sort the trolls from the genuinely retarded around here (the difference is debatable), so I'd try not to worry about it.  You know you can write and you know the standard wasn't very high when you got here, so obviously your blogs are fine. 
lol, yeah I know it's all good. It's just so funny sometimes. Sort of reminds me of this site: http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/
Sleek
Sleek Jul 1, 2009 at 2:52 pm
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Bodi said
lol, yeah I know it's all good. It's just so funny sometimes. Sort of reminds me of this site: http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/
You should make a blog where you match GR posters to the different warrior types.  It's almost too easy.  It could be pretty funny if you did a good job with it (which means knowing who actually fits the caricatures rather than forcing people into them).  Keep it on the backburner ;p
Yiska
Yiska Jul 1, 2009 at 4:26 pm
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Bodi said
"This kind of writing is something you write to a magazine  or at digg article, not on wom."

/facepalm
If you are aware of this, than don't expect the hardcore crowd to like you. You know they would be giving you **** if you knew that was your job here. You treat negative critism with uncalled-for ignorance and arrogance. The average joe might find you funny and entertaining just like many people like Dane Cook (while I want him to stop reproducing or breath my air, heh) The point you have to acknownledge is, that even aNNa provides more information in her articles. Your plot, while your writing is obviously better than spamms of "actually", is just as much thin air like Jasi's articles were, which might be appealing to the casual crowd but is not appealing in the slightest for the usual WoM reader. This displays in the behaviour of commentratings: For the oldschool WoM reader it has often been about the comments while the readerbase you adress it's about the blog (which is a relictum of old Jasidays). What this does is that if someone says "This was bad" on the first page it will be downrated into oblivion while the exact same comment will be +XX on the 5th page, or so I explain it to myself.

Now that's all cool, you're not here to appeal to us. But please, if people call you out for this, don't fuel the fire by commenting with ignorance and *****y bull. Don't pretend you are better, you're not, you are good for a laugh for people who enjoy very basic humor like Dave Chapelle. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Smokeee Jul 1, 2009 at 5:02 pm
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All i know is back in the 'good old days' of Gameriot, when MLG(aming) first took off w/ WoW, and the first live tourneys were being held, everyone here was making fun of the WoW players vs the FPS.  Sure a lot of it was based on just WoW haters, but there was a lot of truth to it also. 

Yes we've all matured since then.  No more making fun of player appearances but its not something we've all forgotten either.  Everything should be relative, and when it isn't theres usually a reason for it.

As for you as a blogger Bodi, i'm honestly not a big fan so far.  It just feels you post more editorials to fill space than things with insight or stuff with real WoW content.  Seems like you get into what you write, but its just not all that interesting tbh.  The saving grace is pretty much every blogger here but Xaerenth(and Slapnuts but he doesn't count) has gone downhill in blogs IMO, especially the whole WoM team(Serennia most notably, its like he completely ran out of PvP content once he got kicked from SK, and now its all raiding crap).  Its still early tho so who knows.
Yiska
Yiska Jul 1, 2009 at 5:12 pm
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Yeah I think there is a lot of jealousy from the FPS players side considering many WoW tournaments have the same amount if not more pricemoney per head even though they think, and they aren't even wrong here, it's not really that hard to be good at WoW.

As for the WoM stuff:
I think the problem is that there is really no consistency. It's like russian roulette, everybody has the potential to write quality content like Serennia did with his LAN center blog, Ming with his last minute gladiator blog, Azael with his insight knownledge of the US PvP scene and aNNa on the other hand for the european part, even though she's not a good writer I, and I might be very biased here because I'm european myself, enjoy her stuff too, because I like the information and gossip stuff about european topplayers even though I already know a good chunk of her plot. Maybe I'm just too hardcore (heh!) to like Bodi, who knows.
Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 5:27 pm
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Smokeee said
All i know is back in the 'good old days' of Gameriot, when MLG(aming) first took off w/ WoW, and the first live tourneys were being held, everyone here was making fun of the WoW players vs the FPS.  Sure a lot of it was based on just WoW haters, but there was a lot of truth to it also. 

Yes we've all matured since then.  No more making fun of player appearances but its not something we've all forgotten either.  Everything should be relative, and when it isn't theres usually a reason for it.

As for you as a blogger Bodi, i'm honestly not a big fan so far.  It just feels you post more editorials to fill space than things with insight or stuff with real WoW content.  Seems like you get into what you write, but its just not all that interesting tbh.  The saving grace is pretty much every blogger here but Xaerenth(and Slapnuts but he doesn't count) has gone downhill in blogs IMO, especially the whole WoM team(Serennia most notably, its like he completely ran out of PvP content once he got kicked from SK, and now its all raiding crap).  Its still early tho so who knows.
I can appreciate people who just can't get into what I write. It's all good. I can't make everyone happy so there's no point in trying. If you don't find what I write interesting, cool. It doesn't break my heart or keep me up at night. I count about 5 really vocal people who really don't like what I write. Take that number, multiply it by 10, and that's how many not-so-vocal people who give me my props every time I write something, casual or hardcore. So, you don't like me so far. Cool. Maybe one day you will like something and that'll be cool too.
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Bodi said
I can appreciate people who just can't get into what I write. It's all good. I can't make everyone happy so there's no point in trying. If you don't find what I write interesting, cool. It doesn't break my heart or keep me up at night. I count about 5 really vocal people who really don't like what I write. Take that number, multiply it by 10, and that's how many not-so-vocal people who give me my props every time I write something, casual or hardcore. So, you don't like me so far. Cool. Maybe one day you will like something and that'll be cool too.
your not taking into account the "not-so-vocal people" who say they dont like your work.
Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 5:23 pm
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Yiska said
If you are aware of this, than don't expect the hardcore crowd to like you. You know they would be giving you **** if you knew that was your job here. You treat negative critism with uncalled-for ignorance and arrogance. The average joe might find you funny and entertaining just like many people like Dane Cook (while I want him to stop reproducing or breath my air, heh) The point you have to acknownledge is, that even aNNa provides more information in her articles. Your plot, while your writing is obviously better than spamms of "actually", is just as much thin air like Jasi's articles were, which might be appealing to the casual crowd but is not appealing in the slightest for the usual WoM reader. This displays in the behaviour of commentratings: For the oldschool WoM reader it has often been about the comments while the readerbase you adress it's about the blog (which is a relictum of old Jasidays). What this does is that if someone says "This was bad" on the first page it will be downrated into oblivion while the exact same comment will be +XX on the 5th page, or so I explain it to myself.

Now that's all cool, you're not here to appeal to us. But please, if people call you out for this, don't fuel the fire by commenting with ignorance and *****y bull. Don't pretend you are better, you're not, you are good for a laugh for people who enjoy very basic humor like Dave Chapelle. Nothing more, nothing less.
1. Fueling the fire is something fun to do while bored.

2. Ignorance? Right. Anyways.

3. Dave Chapelle isn't what I'd call "basic" but whatever. Most of my writing hasn't been "comedy" in that sense of the word at all, since most of it is sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek. You wouldn't believe the amount of mail I get with people taking me seriously in the two entries I wrote like that. (Not kidding.)

4. My content does just as well with the hardcore audience as well as the casual audience. I have no troubles appealing to both concurrently. There are just a few vocal people who love to hate on what I write, which brings me to my next point.

5. I enjoy engaging in dialogue with readers. It's what I do. I also like to argue and my arguing "style" can be seen as pretty condescending. I'm not Anna. I don't take unjustified criticism lying down and I'm not nice about it and frankly, it's really easy to make my detractors look stupid. I may take a small PR hit myself for doing so, but it's really satisfying nonetheless so it's worth it.
Yiska
Yiska Jul 1, 2009 at 5:50 pm
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Most of my writing hasn't been "comedy" in that sense of the word at all, since most of it is sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek.

The problem is, we have a guy who does this on worldclass niveau here on gameriot. His name is R(mp)oma Victor. I absolutely enjoy his blogs and I'd even consider myself a fan. I think his eloquence, ideas, shamelessness while still being classy and level of sarcasm + that he doesn't pretend to be any good at this game nor tries to prove that he knows his stuff is something you can take notes from. I don't know how long you've been around in esports but most of your articles are done to death or too philosophical, too fungous and maybe trying a bit too hard. No offense intended.

You wouldn't believe the amount of mail I get with people taking me seriously in the two entries I wrote like that.

Oh that doesn't surprise me, more people than not are either dumb or immune to sarcasm over the internet.

You've also have been douchebagging it up against people who aren't, unlike me, bitter ******** like Teeko. I'd give the guy my first born, even if I'd find out he's a priest and I only know him from his gr comments.
Demazz
Demazz Jul 1, 2009 at 6:26 pm
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I'd give the guy my first born, even if I'd find out he's a priest and I only know him from his gr comments.

+1
Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 7:19 pm
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Yiska said
Most of my writing hasn't been "comedy" in that sense of the word at all, since most of it is sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek.

The problem is, we have a guy who does this on worldclass niveau here on gameriot. His name is R(mp)oma Victor. I absolutely enjoy his blogs and I'd even consider myself a fan. I think his eloquence, ideas, shamelessness while still being classy and level of sarcasm + that he doesn't pretend to be any good at this game nor tries to prove that he knows his stuff is something you can take notes from. I don't know how long you've been around in esports but most of your articles are done to death or too philosophical, too fungous and maybe trying a bit too hard. No offense intended.

You wouldn't believe the amount of mail I get with people taking me seriously in the two entries I wrote like that.

Oh that doesn't surprise me, more people than not are either dumb or immune to sarcasm over the internet.

You've also have been douchebagging it up against people who aren't, unlike me, bitter ******** like Teeko. I'd give the guy my first born, even if I'd find out he's a priest and I only know him from his gr comments.
I've been around since I was 7 or so and Street Fighter II Championship Edition was hot at the arcades. I know that some of the subjects I cover have been covered already. Cool. But I haven't written about them myself in my own way and I feel that there are things which need to be said better, more efficiently than they've been said already. I feel I have been successful in this particular endeavor.

There's no such thing as "too philosophical". Part of my research for every entry is re-visiting my favorite philosophical concepts and finding subtle ways of integrating them into everything I write. It's what I do.

Downing a couple of martinis and writing ~1000 words isn't difficult. It's everything that comes before the pen hits the paper that's difficult. The couple of people who say I try too hard....eh. I don't know what to say to them other than I know what I write is good. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here or writing for other publications.

Teeko said something really, really stupid, I reacted accordingly. No apologies, even if I do enjoy his other comments on occasion.
TeeKoo
TeeKoo Jul 2, 2009 at 2:09 pm
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I'd give the guy my first born, even if I'd find out he's a priest and I only know him from his gr comments.

Swept a tear :')
Capstone
Capstone Jul 1, 2009 at 8:24 pm
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My content does just as well with the hardcore audience as well as the
casual audience

No it doesn't.

this is precisely the reason people are accusing you of ignoring criticism
Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 8:38 pm
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Capstone said
My content does just as well with the hardcore audience as well as the
casual audience

No it doesn't.

this is precisely the reason people are accusing you of ignoring criticism
I'm pretty sure I have a much better idea than you do, Capstone. Thanks.
Capstone
Capstone Jul 1, 2009 at 9:48 pm
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Bodi said
I'm pretty sure I have a much better idea than you do, Capstone. Thanks.
i wrote an article completely unrelated to WoW, better ignore what anyone else says because i know best

my "hardcore audience" wants nothing more than to see me and my 1700 friends spam damage on people with 100 resilience and if anyone tells me otherwise i don't care because i know better
Bodi
Bodi Jul 1, 2009 at 9:51 pm
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Capstone said
i wrote an article completely unrelated to WoW, better ignore what anyone else says because i know best

my "hardcore audience" wants nothing more than to see me and my 1700 friends spam damage on people with 100 resilience and if anyone tells me otherwise i don't care because i know better
You can't stop. You won't stop. I'm not even sure you know how to stop. It's amazing.

Sleaky is 1700. Right. Playing at 2400 MMR is nothing but people in 100 resilience. Right. Talking about the social aspects of a game we play has nothing to do with the game. Right.

Man. Just give up.