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by Zilea, Level 51
Last updated at May 30, 2009, 1:55 am
Mod King to Little Timmy?

Until about a month ago, I was a mod king, utilizing mods like Spellalerter, Gladius, SCT, etc. Even minor mods like Bartender and Xperl were being used by me in order to maximize my gameplay... or so I thought.

AWOO

It's obviously been a long time since the taking of this screenshot, but notice Spellalerter, bartender, Xperl... non-hotkeyed abilities...
Nonetheless, the times of being a mod watcher have ended. And I must say that the difference is night and day.



I will admit that going from all of those mods to 0 mods (actually, I'm cheating, I still use OmniCC and Itemrack) was really rocky and difficult for the first 70-100 arena matches. The biggest issue for me was initially the fact that buffs do not show on your party frames and that debuffs displayed are capped at 4. Who the hell at Blizzard HQ designed it this way? Why not just show all the debuffs? How about at least an OPTION to show all debuffs?

Other beefs with default UI: the in-game proximo is not unlockable, can't scale the size of the in-game scrolling combat text, lack of a timer over your abilities (like OmniCC), the list goes on.

The Disadvantages of Learning the Ways of Default UI

As a Paladin, the single most annoying thing about playing in arena with no mods when you know everyone else is using mods: your Divine Plea will never last more than 1 tick against any team with a priest/shaman on maps like Ring of Valor.
I can't count the number of times I would pop Divine Plea only to have it almost immediately dispelled on that map. And, on a few occasions on the other maps, I learned the hard way that popping Divine Plea 3 yards away from a pillar, even if you are about to run behind it, is not good enough to protect your Divine Plea against teams with Spellalerter/Xperl (Xperl will display buffs on the /focus frame and Spellalerter will tell you immediately when someone uses Divine Plea).

In the bigger scheme of things, though, mods are a serious crutch. I personally never thought so until I started adjusting without said mods. I started becoming more aware of things whereas before I could gaze at the middle of my screen to tell me when a druid was cycloning, a priest was mana burning, etc. If you play with 300 mods, have your frames moved around, buffs and debuffs placed in strange positions, you are just hurting yourself. Sure, you will be completely accustomed to them and play well, but you will slowly become more oblivious to the game and become more attached to relying on your mods to keep you alert.

In the past few weeks I've been watching a lot of streams on Xfire and, surprisingly, there are an awful lot of people that play with few (if any) mods. And many people use smaller mods like Gladius and OmniCC, which is a lot less significant than something like Spellalerter.

To those that do use a ridiculous amount of mods, it's ok to use them, but know that the skill cap is much lower for you because of how those mods are assisting you.
     
61 comments
Iliekboyz
Iliekboyz May 30, 2009 at 2:02 am
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Hotaruz
Hotaruz May 30, 2009 at 2:04 am
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Kil'jaedan AG for life. elite+++
wagglesmurf
wagglesmurf May 30, 2009 at 2:05 am
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Your first UI is absolutely disgusting. The default UI is immensely better only because it's not a cluttered sack of ****.
Guidor
Guidor May 30, 2009 at 8:15 pm
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I swear by bartender, but mostly i agree.
Seriously though Zilea, why do you have auto attack still bound to 1?
headache
headache May 31, 2009 at 12:33 am
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click sac, healthstone, and rez. paladin r hard
Guidor
Guidor May 31, 2009 at 5:37 am
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He doesn't click sac, i think he just has 2 on his bar. He probably doesn't play with warlocks either, so why waste a bind?
Come on, not binding rez doesn't really matter
proclass
proclass May 30, 2009 at 2:06 am
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It's easy to have a clean UI but still have a lot of mods, you just fail at organizing it.
Iliekboyz
Iliekboyz May 30, 2009 at 2:08 am
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"It's obviously been a long time since the taking of this screenshot"

It's probably safe to assume it's a lot better in arena and that it's been improved upon?
Ghork
Ghork May 30, 2009 at 8:25 am
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first off the first SS is organized like ****, + nice comparison showing raid frames vs not showing raid frames. Obviusly any sane person wouldn't place the raid frames like you did in SS1, but then again going to a raid and not showing any as a healer would be 50 times as retarded.

But back to the core of the discussion. There are 2 kinds of mods, crutch mods such as spellalert etc. that will help you see things that you might not have, then there's bar mods and party frame mods, which really just improve on blizzards inherent ****ty design. I admit i used to use a few crutch mods but this was before the times of turneys really (and now i dont play) and really it helped you stay competetive, but i'd be just as glad if none could have used them. however bar mods and party frame mods were sorta a must for me. Not that i wanted to move everything to the center which is for retards only tbh as it clutters actual screen usage and if you want to target ppl on the screen having your own health bar block them is totally retarded. However that beeing said still lots to improve upon
proclass
proclass May 30, 2009 at 9:04 am
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Then why did he make this blog directly comparing the 2 screenshots (with only ONE example for each side) and using it as an argument against using lots of mods?

I guess if you don't have the cognitive capacity to organize your UI you should stick with the Default.
Qils
Qils May 30, 2009 at 2:09 am
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It's funny you'd make this blog.

I had to format my comp last night and reinstalled WoW today.  I decided to play with zero mods for now.  Did about 50 arena games, and yes, it is quite awkward to get used to.  Main things I was used to were x-perl, and you're absolutely right, the debuff tracking from blizz's default is ******* horrible.

My real gripe is that where I have spells on my bars in certain places, there's a blank box, instead of how it is on yours where there's just nothing.  I can't get this to go away no matter what I do in the interface options.
Malf
Malf May 30, 2009 at 11:53 am
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Interface Tab

ActionBars

Click off "Always show action bars"

word 
Klynx
Klynx May 30, 2009 at 1:42 pm
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Malf said
Interface Tab

ActionBars

Click off "Always show action bars"

word 
ROFL

So what does that put Qils' problem solving ability at?
Crocpot
Crocpot May 30, 2009 at 2:49 pm
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Klynx
Klynx May 30, 2009 at 2:50 pm
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Is that how many times you've used that joke with no success?
Nennx
Nennx May 30, 2009 at 5:02 pm
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its how many times hes used it with success idiot
Klynx
Klynx May 31, 2009 at 3:34 pm
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Explain the joke, Nennx, won't you?  I'm positive you have no clue what it's about.
Nennx
Nennx May 31, 2009 at 5:17 pm
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I'm positive I do

Not everyone can go 18-0, tbh
Klynx
Klynx May 31, 2009 at 11:31 pm
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Okay since you don't really understand the joke you're using I'll help you out.

I have a short blog post from a year and a half ago where I wrote about how happy I was for having gone 28-0 with a new partner.  That's it.  The joke was not that it wasn't very impressive (in fact  very few people ever get to do that), but because people were kidding about how I was bragging.  It was a mimicry of me, not an insult to having a 28-win streak.

Get it now?  If you don't then idk swallow a gunbarrel or something.
Nennx
Nennx Jun 1, 2009 at 3:13 am
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jesus christ you're retarded
Klynx
Klynx Jun 1, 2009 at 2:51 pm
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wagglesmurf
wagglesmurf May 30, 2009 at 2:12 am
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X-Perl is a ******* aesthetic abomination. So is the default minimap, oversized default texture buttons, default unitframes (what the **** were you doing with your raid frames, it looks like you literally took 15 seconds and moved them to merely not overlap). Also, nice bagbar and menubar D:

Is this a troll?
smoktuki
smoktuki May 30, 2009 at 2:22 am
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Horrible comparison from your pictures.

First of all, your first image is in a RAID situation, bolded, caps, and italicized for effect.

Have a full party and pull out everyone's names on a default UI, it's not going to look any different.

Secondly, you have your combat window on your first pic, whereas in your second you don't have it out.  I'm assuming not even you, other than sitting idle in ironforge, have it hidden like that in actual combat/raid situations.

Obviously as for the rest, you have enemies targetted and assists/focus targets in the first pic which you would still have on the second pic were you not just sitting in ironforge doing nothing.
Lickerzz
Lickerzz May 30, 2009 at 2:24 am
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why bother playing without convenience mods like xperl that improve upon a poor default ui unless you are trying to play professionally, its not skill cap that's the problem its people convincing themselves less is more when quite obviously playing without mods are just  preparing for a lan environment or trying to be better than those "clutching" on mods

if tournaments allowed certain mods like wsvg used to allow rupture ui i would think its for the best overall, but archaic rulesets still prevail, its also probably easier because its less time for tournament organizers not having to worry about people customizing ****

i remember someone made a blog crying about how making a built in arena frame was the end of world of warcraft, was overly melodramatic and entirely wrong
Sodah
Sodah May 30, 2009 at 2:45 am
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zilea is going to regionals, dats why hes going modless.
Lickerzz
Lickerzz May 30, 2009 at 2:54 am
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Sodah said
zilea is going to regionals, dats why hes going modless.
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Lickerzz
Lickerzz May 30, 2009 at 2:55 am
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do you remember that time on blackwing lair when you played with an orc
warlock named obsidium or something against me and huggerz

that was cool
Sodah
Sodah May 30, 2009 at 7:39 pm
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Lickerzz said
do you remember that time on blackwing lair when you played with an orc
warlock named obsidium or something against me and huggerz

that was cool
rofl yes i do. he was like the fing pioneer of viper sting w/ scorpid poison. That used to be so annoying! i played druid rogue mainly that season though, just farming spriest/lock
Daara
Daara Jun 1, 2009 at 4:44 am
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Lickerzz said
why bother playing without convenience mods like xperl that improve upon a poor default ui unless you are trying to play professionally, its not skill cap that's the problem its people convincing themselves less is more when quite obviously playing without mods are just  preparing for a lan environment or trying to be better than those "clutching" on mods

if tournaments allowed certain mods like wsvg used to allow rupture ui i would think its for the best overall, but archaic rulesets still prevail, its also probably easier because its less time for tournament organizers not having to worry about people customizing ****

i remember someone made a blog crying about how making a built in arena frame was the end of world of warcraft, was overly melodramatic and entirely wrong
Default UI isn't that bad anymore.  Atleast there's a focus frame now and totem timer :)  Now they just need to make shamans not suck dick.
wdlol
wdlol Jun 1, 2009 at 7:01 pm
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"i remember someone made a blog crying about how making a built in arena
frame was the end of world of warcraft, was overly melodramatic and
entirely wrong"

kzn
Awooga
Awooga May 30, 2009 at 2:46 am
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Thanks for cluing us in, we had no idea that mods are for the most part a crutch : |
GibTehStix
GibTehStix May 30, 2009 at 2:56 am unhide comment
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vhell
vhell May 30, 2009 at 3:01 am
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Are you posting this comment from the gym? I don't understand
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