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by Inactive, Level 37
Last updated at February 4, 2008, 7:59 pm

 


Alright, first of all we already have our new paladin who is Elessarsz (Zolz played with us 1 night so we didn't QQ EMO QUIT) - sorry haters our team didn't disband LOL DRAMA.


 


Anyways, he's a great addition to the team and definitely fits our personalities.



 


Sad thing is, 2346 got buffed more than Hunter/Lock in 2.3. Shamans are nearly IMPOSSIBLE to OOM with water shield - you leave a pet on them they'll hover above 3k mana the entire game if you don't put it on them they can drink as much as they like. WTB cool down. They are basically warlocks. That's a big problem for Hunter/Lock since how aggressive you can play is dictated by the shamans mana pool because him alone can do 8k burst damage. Oh, almost forgot PI compliments shaman burst WAY to well. And, shamans having 100% push back resist significantly helps them out since you can't put a pet on them and push them back. Hell, even while attacking them while your pummel is down they can freely cast.


 



2.3 gave hunters stuff they didn't need and were small changes. Removed dead zone - not a big deal in 5's. Arcane shot - useless for the most part? Mortal Shot - definitely useful with a warrior...


 



 


For those of you who don't know how Hunter/Lock works vs 2346 I will use some quotes to sum up it up and my argument against PvE Gear which Ronmexicoz describes perfectly.


 



 


Swarm: "Bloodlust'd PvE Paladin allows for many Bloodlust'd tunnel vision burns, new Water Shield makes Shamans un-oomable, and Warlocks are ... well, Warlocks. Hunter/Lock can't put out enough pressure vs a PvE Paladin to force the Priest to heal, so he matches the Viper Sting in terms of burning (unless you train him, in which case you have both casters and the warrior free dpsing). That, and, anytime in the game, 2346 can just turn to the Warrior and get an insta-gib."


 



 


The Great Ronmexicoz: "What I do have a problem with is people who use PvE gear crying when other people point it out. WoW is the type of game where you can get pretty huge PvP advantages that have nothing to do with skill. If I had those advantages I would use them. I would not, however, make something on the order of 50 posts about how it was actually skill not gear that helped me win."


 



 


Sums up the argument pretty well, and I'll add another quote because mainly because Globals has Down syndrome and is completely oblivious to everything.


 



Globals: "Say what you want about hunter vs shaman, the fact is almost every
single fight came down to attrition, and their lineup should outlast
ours every time."


 


 


Kintt: "And they would if you didn't have PvE gear. Raped idiot, period."



CILPS VS SHUTTLE***** WERE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE BLOG, LOL OWNT.


Here are the clips, it includes 4 wins and 2 losses vs Shuttle***** and one random game that I still had in my FRAPS folder that I put in purely because I needed the extra time because music was too long. I didn't include some of the wins and losses due to the length of the games or the stupidity of them, I only included one gib match to prove my point - I could've done a better job of LOSing that game but as you can see it didn't matter because I didn't die because of more casts on me but because of the warrior so I don't think it would've made a difference. Oh, and if I would've added the few other gibs or long drawn out matches I'm pretty sure you'd be bored. Also, there was a match where I pretty much lost us the game due to miscommunication in blade’s edge that I didn’t bother adding.



Do note, if I ever do make an "OFFICAL" PvP Video, some of the songs I've used will be reused.



Also, reason I didn't post this yesterday (when I wrote it) is because the video wasn't uploaded. The Quality is not so great, don't ***** you can tell what's going on which is the purpose of the clips I'm not making a WCM or anything. If you don't like the music, turn it off.

EDIT: Got link to work. Formatting got raped somehow, trying to fix.


Direct Link to Video: here


 

     
159 comments
alef
alef Feb 4, 2008 at 8:28 pm
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So you'r saying if you'r not being dpsed, SH is better?


Coz of the speed and additionnal stun proc chance?
Deltronz
Deltronz Feb 4, 2008 at 8:30 pm
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none of them are saying their pve gear is skill retard they are saying they play to win jesus
Inactive
Inactive Feb 4, 2008 at 8:39 pm
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really Deltronz? I suggest you read some of Globals retarded comments before opening your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.
Deltronz
Deltronz Feb 4, 2008 at 9:01 pm
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nah man i know ur the douche in the situation be real
Inactive
Inactive Feb 4, 2008 at 9:07 pm
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nice one dude, you're really smart. Just read the quote.
The Great Ronmexicoz: "What I do have a problem with is people who
use PvE gear crying when other people point it out. WoW is the type of
game where you can get pretty huge PvP advantages that have nothing to
do with skill. If I had those advantages I would use them. I would not,
however, make something on the order of 50 posts about how it was
actually skill not gear that helped me win."
weird0
weird0 Mar 13, 2008 at 1:16 pm
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alef
alef Feb 4, 2008 at 8:32 pm
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I've gone s3 sword but i miss Mace. I have skillherald (with savagery) in bank and i'm hesitating to take it back untill i get s3 mace, in 3 weeks.
hoodrych
hoodrych Feb 4, 2008 at 8:41 pm
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lmfao@3821 in def stance

this game is so fun
Saz
Saz Feb 5, 2008 at 5:41 am
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he was in zerker with deathwish up when the CL hit, watch it again. Not saying shaman burst isn't broken its still ridiculously over powered. But there couldn't have been a better time for that burst to land tbh, he had deathwise and bloodfury up so the warrior really doesnt have to switch to him and give anything away to land the kill. Good matched none the less.
Nedd
Nedd Feb 5, 2008 at 8:45 pm
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He gets in D stance before the chain lightening hits.  The lightening bolt was in zerker stance, but not the chain lightening.
psylynt
psylynt Feb 4, 2008 at 8:45 pm
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inactive, thx for the vid upload.  any way we can get some footage from your hunter's perspec?
Kintt
Kintt Feb 4, 2008 at 8:47 pm
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Nice fights.  One piece of constructive criticism though, try and keep shout up late game.
Inactive
Inactive Feb 4, 2008 at 8:53 pm
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Globals
Globals Feb 4, 2008 at 10:21 pm
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i made that mistake too when i was 60 it's cool.
Inactive
Inactive Feb 4, 2008 at 10:36 pm
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hey dude, it's all right. You still haven't got that Spell Reflect/D-Stance thing down yet. If you look at the videos you still don't keep shouts up well, grats though dude.
Globals
Globals Feb 4, 2008 at 10:59 pm
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Seleukos
Seleukos Feb 4, 2008 at 11:27 pm
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Nah your team will have replaced you by then Globals.
Seleukos
Seleukos Feb 4, 2008 at 8:48 pm
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TY for answering more question about Hunter vs Shaman more in a blog LOL. I didn't take into account the Water Shield changes.
Seleukos
Seleukos Feb 4, 2008 at 9:37 pm
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Watched the vid. It was really nice watching. Shuttle***** are a good team though. However their warrior could use some experiance/get replaced.
Their shaman and lock have incredible synergy though. At least In my opinion.
Glorin
Glorin Feb 4, 2008 at 11:20 pm
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A lot of the synergy comes from the fact that Nicduim's main is Fuzze who was Overdose's ele shaman. He knows how long it takes for me to set everything up so the timing usually falls into place.
Seleukos
Seleukos Feb 4, 2008 at 11:25 pm
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Ok. Just from watching Inactive's vid you both seem to play real well together.
Romantic
Romantic Feb 4, 2008 at 9:09 pm
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Nice an inactive POV clip :) 52%.....
Astaroth
Astaroth Feb 4, 2008 at 9:54 pm
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I can honestly say that after watching this video I learned once and for all that I dislike rap music.
Inactive
Inactive Feb 4, 2008 at 10:04 pm unhide comment
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Astaroth
Astaroth Feb 4, 2008 at 10:31 pm
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I can't tell if you're serious or not (I wasn't really trying to be).
If you are, I didn't absorb a single line from those songs due me subconsciously droning out the music (I realized I was doing this halfway through and decided to switch to some mucic that I do enjoy). 
If you aren't, then, no u.
Globals
Globals Feb 4, 2008 at 10:01 pm
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wtb clip on blades edge you get mc'd
Inactive
Inactive Feb 4, 2008 at 10:04 pm
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That's not as embarrassing as getting blown up multiple times by 2 different Hunter/Lock teams with a PvE Paladin. Get raped, it's sad when Rorixx openly **** talks you and calls you terrible, I guess finding that pummel button is difficult?
Globals
Globals Feb 4, 2008 at 10:09 pm
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I believe everything someone types on the internet.
Seleukos
Seleukos Feb 4, 2008 at 10:09 pm
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LOL. Oh yeah by the way Globals grats on adding the grand total of a whirlwind and single white attack to Inactive getting blown up in at 10:50ish when you're STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO HIM!!!
LOLOLOL.
I stand by my comment that Shuttlesock's Lock and Shaman have great synergy together.
Globals
Globals Feb 4, 2008 at 10:17 pm
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So your saying i timed a whilrwind and 1 attack perfectly with damage my team had incoming on inactive, so he didn't have any way to see it coming, i was hitting the target next to him, it was planned invisible damage.


I make several big mistakes in the video's he showed, this wasn't one of them.
BEASTWOOD
BEASTWOOD Feb 4, 2008 at 10:30 pm
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He should have noticed the shaman in that fight but ya
Inactive
Inactive Feb 4, 2008 at 10:33 pm
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I reflected the coil and still died. If I got the shamans burst a soul fire and shadowburn would've killed me anyways. Pay attention to the party frames, when I'm at 70%ish and I call out on vent they're on me they're on me clicker is slow at swapping heals to me and casts an entire FOL on helldridge and gets half a holy light off while I die. I played it as well as I could for not playing for about a month ~ as hunter/lock TBH.
Over all, we're just all pretty slow and were pretty rusty in those games so it's not like it's just Clicker's fault for being slow at swaping to heal me.
Globals
Globals Feb 4, 2008 at 10:34 pm
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all i wanna say about rorix talking **** to me openly is when we made this team at least 3 of us were 99% sure we would take #1 spot fast knowing rorix was on the #1 team.
Inactive
Inactive Feb 4, 2008 at 10:38 pm
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You've be #1 for an entire week because you queue up one day a week bro. I guarantee if you would've played more games this week or queued up more often you'd have already lost #1.


You have #1 for a week and you're letting it get to your head, grats on queue one day a week.
Seleukos
Seleukos Feb 4, 2008 at 10:52 pm
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@ Globals. Ok the whirldwind wasn't directed at Inactive. You added basically nothing to that gib. Your shaman and lock did all the damage to him.You were right next to him the entire time while your shaman and lock killed him when you could've easily done something. It's not till he's basically dead that even change targets and start attacking him. But I guess changing targets to people that are right next to you is hard.
Inactive
Inactive Feb 4, 2008 at 11:45 pm
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his lock did nothing. I reflected his death coil. I think it was a perfect show case of why shamans dmg is over powered and PI/Shaman burst needs a nerf - a shaman alone killed me. Grats :)
Globals
Globals Feb 4, 2008 at 11:57 pm
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sounds like a job well done by glorin to me.
Seleukos
Seleukos Feb 5, 2008 at 12:10 am
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The lock shadow bolts and Death Coils you. Yes the Death coil is reflected but it could've just as easily been the earth shock or Lightning bolt instead. Also the lock as tongues on. Basically the Lock does alot more than Globals who does...... that's right nothing.
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