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by StoneDrunk, Level 36
Last updated at October 25, 2009, 10:11 pm
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“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
If you read these words, and are completely unmoved, you might want to check your pulse because you're probably dead. This is the beginning of the United States Declaration of Independence. Thomas Jefferson wrote these words in 1776 as an explanation to the European powers for the American colonies defection from control of the British Empire. These powerful words changed the course of human events. It inspired revolutions in France, Mexico and Haiti and remained the cornerstone for the ideals that fueled the American thought process for hundreds of years. The idea that man is free and should be separated from the burdens of an oppressive government is what set the United States apart from other feudalistic countries of that time.

Before I can explain the gradual decline of America, I feel it is necessary to actually define what America is. America is individual freedom, America is “No taxation without representation”, America the idea that everyone is able to make the most of their lives regardless of color, creed, or denomination. America is not the internationally defined borders. America is not 50 states, it is not agreeing with any action the government takes. Being an American is a choice. The idea of the founding fathers is what America is. We, as a people, have a short history of existence. Americans as a population is held together by a common thought and idea instead of common ancestors. I am 5/8th German, a 1/4th French, a 1/16th Scots-Irish, and 1/16th Welsh (lol); yet, I have no more of a relation to any of these countries than Yiska does to me. In this modern world with immigration and movement in the advance state it is, a country is nothing more then the set of ideals that holds it together. What made America great is vanishing at a rapid rate, our values trampled, our morals destroyed as we wonder why the world begins to hate us more and more. We are becoming a society of moping populist retards with no sense of right and wrong, only profit and personal gain.
First of all, let me make something abundantly clear. WE ARE NOT A ******* DEMOCRACY. Your god damn 2nd grade teacher lied to you. We are a republic. Stop saying that we're bringing democracy to Iraq, they're a republic too. Athens in 460 B.C. had a democracy. We're a ******* two party system and you have no power. We're choosing between wrecking our personal freedoms and wrecking our personal freedoms. But hey, if you vote R, at least we'll be safe AMIRITE?
America is a country of misfits. The start of the United States is nothing short of a historical miracle. Protestants, Catholics, Germans, Englishmen, French, Quakers, Puritans and god knows whatever else coming together and defeating the most powerful empire to ever exist is amazing. Our ideals were based upon tolerance and independence. Our first constitution was a failure. The Articles of Federation (which is what America used when we declared war on England) didn't even give the federal government powers of taxation. It had no income what so ever, we had no Army and instead relied completely on state governments. The United State Constitution was devised after the Articles turned out to be a total failure. The federal system was devised with a strong checks and balance system to prevent corruption, an new idea to governing in its era. As sure as the sun will keep shining, we can expect retards to keep ******* great things.
We've seen alcohol banned for 13 years due to the influence of religious groups. We've seen the drinking age raised by the federal government. Sure, the drinking age being raised from 18 to 21 pisses me off, but the way the United States government did it is unconstitutional. Blackmailing the states by withholding millions of dollars in federal funding.
We've seen a federal drug war rage on preventing the states from governing their own jurisdiction. Millions of non-violent Americans have been arrested for stupid bull**** policies implemented by ignorant mother******* who haven't the slightest idea of what they're doing. You can't look at the United States drug policy and not see a direct relation to the drug cartel war that is destroying the upper half of Mexico. If you see no correlation and think that our drug policy is fine then you're a ******* tool and should probably do a double suicide with Verdak.
Under George W. Bush we watched our rights (clearly defined in the Bill of Rights) shredded by the Patriot Act. “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” (Ben Franklin).
Under the current administration we've seen multiple bans and regulations put in on basic freedoms and rights. The Family Prevention Smoking Act has given more power to the FDA to regulate tobacco products which has resulted in a ban on multiple flavors of tobacco. I don't really care about the actual ban on the flavors seeing how menthol isn't getting touched (no I'm not black), its more or less the idea behind the regulation on this. If the government telling you what flavors of tobacco you can and can't smoke make you realize that our leaders are out of line then nothing will.
You want to know what lead up to the American Revolution? One of the big factors was the Stamp Tax. It was a tax imposed by Parliament after the French-Indian War (Seven Years War if you live outside the US). The Stamp Tax was a tax imposed on all documents that were printed such as newspapers, licenses, and so forth. They generally cost about $.01 to $.03 cents in modern coin. Yes, our country defected because we didn't want to pay a $.01 tax. It wasn't the tax it self, it was the idea that we were being taxed unfairly because the colonies had no representation in Parliament. That doesn't relate to modern policy much except for blocking of things you would normally assume is your human rights.
If you really think America is any better than any country in the European Union right now then you're a ******* tool. What happened to the spirit of not tolerating injustices to ourselves? What about standing up for your rights guaranteed at our beginning of our formation?
"Americans play to win all the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in Hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost and will never lose a war. Because the very thought of losing is hateful to Americans." ((George S. Patton) Pre-Vietnam LOL))
America is going to hell and so is my motivation to stop it.

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right now we have a populist in office. i guess the failed, eh?
right now we have a populist in office. i guess the failed, eh?
Oh and Andrew Jackson was a "populist."
Oh and Andrew Jackson was a "populist."
right now we have a populist in office. i guess the failed, eh?
Hitler, for example, was elected to German office in 1932. I guess the general opinion of the Germans in the 1930s was "kill all of the jews" right?
Election = democracy, confirm/deny?
Hitler, for example, was elected to German office in 1932. I guess the general opinion of the Germans in the 1930s was "kill all of the jews" right?
Election = democracy, confirm/deny?
Facts: Hitler was democratically elected and hugely popular. His policies of anti-semetic propaganda were well executed and effective. What conclusion does that lead you to, champ?
I just said that most germans supported his policies towards the jews. Maybe you'd like to learn some reading comprehension rather than sticking words in people's mouths.
Antisemitism was widespread throughout Europe, just like racism in the US. That doesn't mean most Americans supported the wipeout of blacks. Imagine I would conclude such bull****. You'd laugh me off the stage.
Antisemitism was widespread throughout Europe, just like racism in the US. That doesn't mean most Americans supported the wipeout of blacks. Imagine I would conclude such bull****. You'd laugh me off the stage.
it wasn't just the jews, it was the Roma (gypsies), intellectual Germans, blacks and free masons to name a few.
it wasn't just the jews, it was the Roma (gypsies), intellectual Germans, blacks and free masons to name a few.
I'm not fat, nor am I a ****. I'm not racist either, but from your little mind I realize you just use that as a synonym for "I DONT LIKE YOU".
I guess what I said hit a little too close to home, eh?
I'm not fat, nor am I a ****. I'm not racist either, but from your little mind I realize you just use that as a synonym for "I DONT LIKE YOU".
I guess what I said hit a little too close to home, eh?
Wow you are dumb. What makes you think the majority of Germans at the time supported this?
Have you ever met a German? Of course they did!
It is this same extreme warping of past events that leads people to deny Christ (our savior) as their savior. With all your "science" you can't even remember the events of a historic event such as the Nazi movement or the Creation of Heaven and Earth.
I will pray for you Secksie.
It is this same extreme warping of past events that leads people to deny Christ (our savior) as their savior. With all your "science" you can't even remember the events of a historic event such as the Nazi movement or the Creation of Heaven and Earth.
I will pray for you Secksie.
Go back into your hole, woman.
Go back into your hole, woman.
Hitler LOST all elections prior to being appointed Chancellor (a roll he forced upon himself through bribery and endless campaigning) to Hindenburg.
His success after Chancellorship was down to suppression by intimidation of rival parties and his persuasion to dissolve the Reichstag (a job only Hindenburg had power to do).
Campaigning continued thereafter, with the Hitler making use of paramilitary violence, anti-communist hysteria, and the government's resources for propaganda. And even then he was unable to attain absolute majority.
Perhaps you should have gone to Church, where only the truth is taught, instead of School where they preach popularist materials and tailor you for Satan's Domain.
Hitler LOST all elections prior to being appointed Chancellor (a roll he forced upon himself through bribery and endless campaigning) to Hindenburg.
His success after Chancellorship was down to suppression by intimidation of rival parties and his persuasion to dissolve the Reichstag (a job only Hindenburg had power to do).
Campaigning continued thereafter, with the Hitler making use of paramilitary violence, anti-communist hysteria, and the government's resources for propaganda. And even then he was unable to attain absolute majority.
Perhaps you should have gone to Church, where only the truth is taught, instead of School where they preach popularist materials and tailor you for Satan's Domain.
Women aren't equipped to debate politics. Go back to your kitchen and cook some cookies. You can even put a cross on them!
Women aren't equipped to debate politics. Go back to your kitchen and cook some cookies. You can even put a cross on them!
Once Hitler had been sworn in as Chancellor and head of the coalition government, he called on Hindenburg to dissolve the Reichstag and draw a new parliamentary election in the hope that he could acquire a National Socialist majority to secure his position and eliminate the communist opposition. At ANY point the President could have removed his Chancellorship and foiled the entire plot, but he didnt. Hitler did not have power at this point, Hindenburg did.
He was trying to abolish democracy by passing the Enabling act (i would explain the details of the Enabling act, but you would probably deny its existence much like you deny Christ (our savior)'s existence).
To pass the Enabling Act, the Nazis had to have a vote by 2/3 majority in the Reichstag, but they could only get 32% so were restricted.
The Nazi party then set fire to the Reichstag building and blamed it on Communists, effectively destroying their party.
He sucked up remaining votes with extreme propaganda and fear tactics.
Noone voted for the Nazis, the voted for anti-communism. The Nazis just happened to be in the opposite seat.
Go back to school and tell them God sent you.
Once Hitler had been sworn in as Chancellor and head of the coalition government, he called on Hindenburg to dissolve the Reichstag and draw a new parliamentary election in the hope that he could acquire a National Socialist majority to secure his position and eliminate the communist opposition. At ANY point the President could have removed his Chancellorship and foiled the entire plot, but he didnt. Hitler did not have power at this point, Hindenburg did.
He was trying to abolish democracy by passing the Enabling act (i would explain the details of the Enabling act, but you would probably deny its existence much like you deny Christ (our savior)'s existence).
To pass the Enabling Act, the Nazis had to have a vote by 2/3 majority in the Reichstag, but they could only get 32% so were restricted.
The Nazi party then set fire to the Reichstag building and blamed it on Communists, effectively destroying their party.
He sucked up remaining votes with extreme propaganda and fear tactics.
Noone voted for the Nazis, the voted for anti-communism. The Nazis just happened to be in the opposite seat.
Go back to school and tell them God sent you.
the Reichstag, though they definitely exploited the political climate
after it. Stop spreading theories that have been long invalidated.
While people can debate Christ's significance and existence, one thing is indisputable - he, like everyone important, was a man. Get back to your ******* kitchen and leave debating to your betters.
the Reichstag, though they definitely exploited the political climate
after it. Stop spreading theories that have been long invalidated.
While people can debate Christ's significance and existence, one thing is indisputable - he, like everyone important, was a man. Get back to your ******* kitchen and leave debating to your betters.
Nazis did destroy the Reichstag.
I dispute Christ (our savior) being just a man. That, by definition, makes it disputable. There's some truth for you. Do not fret my child, there is more truth to the world than we could ever discover for ourselves. It is only by looking to the heavens and accepting Christ's (our savior) loving tendrils into our hearts that we can hope to glimpse the truth in its most pure of forms.
Hindenburg could have removed Hitler's Chancellorship before he ever orchestrated a vote. He was only CONSTITUTIONALLY OBLIGATED because of his own ineptitude.
Church, my child. You will learn more there than any "science" class will ever teach you.
Nazis did destroy the Reichstag.
I dispute Christ (our savior) being just a man. That, by definition, makes it disputable. There's some truth for you. Do not fret my child, there is more truth to the world than we could ever discover for ourselves. It is only by looking to the heavens and accepting Christ's (our savior) loving tendrils into our hearts that we can hope to glimpse the truth in its most pure of forms.
Hindenburg could have removed Hitler's Chancellorship before he ever orchestrated a vote. He was only CONSTITUTIONALLY OBLIGATED because of his own ineptitude.
Church, my child. You will learn more there than any "science" class will ever teach you.
I know what is in my heart, and that which has been given to me by Christ (our savior) and not that which has been poorly translated by blasphemers such as yourself.
Dont call to suppress that which has taught you so much. And by that I mean me.
Let us pray.
I know what is in my heart, and that which has been given to me by Christ (our savior) and not that which has been poorly translated by blasphemers such as yourself.
Dont call to suppress that which has taught you so much. And by that I mean me.
Let us pray.
You're probably a bitter fat chick who takes solace in religion because no guys would ever touch her even after a handle of vodka. Go be bitter somewhere else rather than disturbing your betters. And you have no idea what your savior or lord has spoken, given that ALL your information about them is through the translations of blasphemers.
Go fail more, *****.
You're probably a bitter fat chick who takes solace in religion because no guys would ever touch her even after a handle of vodka. Go be bitter somewhere else rather than disturbing your betters. And you have no idea what your savior or lord has spoken, given that ALL your information about them is through the translations of blasphemers.
Go fail more, *****.
I do not associate with those who "touch" women after a handle of vodka. I have never engaged in intercourse out of choice and my hatred for premarital relations.
If you wish to "get some" in places where the alchohol flows freely and the women have contracted innumerable genital diseases, then feel free. And you can look forward to much more frequent penetration in Satan's Domain (Satan himself is a homosexual).
And I have first hand knowledge of what Christ (our savior) has spoken, for I accept his loving tendrils into my heart at every opportunity.
In spite of your words of hate and spewing of false Nazi information (I blame "science" not you) I will continue to pray for you Secksie. Go with peace.
I do not associate with those who "touch" women after a handle of vodka. I have never engaged in intercourse out of choice and my hatred for premarital relations.
If you wish to "get some" in places where the alchohol flows freely and the women have contracted innumerable genital diseases, then feel free. And you can look forward to much more frequent penetration in Satan's Domain (Satan himself is a homosexual).
And I have first hand knowledge of what Christ (our savior) has spoken, for I accept his loving tendrils into my heart at every opportunity.
In spite of your words of hate and spewing of false Nazi information (I blame "science" not you) I will continue to pray for you Secksie. Go with peace.
And your "facts" on Nazism are retarded and patently false.
And your "facts" on Nazism are retarded and patently false.
Such is the athiest mentality.
And my "facts" are just that.
Go with peace.
Such is the athiest mentality.
And my "facts" are just that.
Go with peace.
Making blanket generalizations without knowing anything, such is the Christian fundamentalist mentality.
Making blanket generalizations without knowing anything, such is the Christian fundamentalist mentality.
And I didnt make any generalizations, your Athiest mind, polluted as it is by "science", has yet to inform you of right and wrong, those who know much and those who know little.
When your mind is suffieciently ready to accept the truth, I shall be here to accept your apologies.
Go with peace.
And "So when you find someone who provides truth which counters your
arguements, you put it down to trolling rather than finding a better
alternative.
Such is the athiest mentality." is clearly not a generalization.
Of course not.
Retard.
And "So when you find someone who provides truth which counters your
arguements, you put it down to trolling rather than finding a better
alternative.
Such is the athiest mentality." is clearly not a generalization.
Of course not.
Retard.
Well let me tell you, there is. The Lord has given us a powerful gift, and instead you choose to deny him and shout down those who see the truth.
He will forgive you, should you at any point in your earthly life see the light.
I will pray for you Secksie.
Go with peace.
I do not associate with those who "touch" women after a handle of vodka. I have never engaged in intercourse out of choice and my hatred for premarital relations.
If you wish to "get some" in places where the alchohol flows freely and the women have contracted innumerable genital diseases, then feel free. And you can look forward to much more frequent penetration in Satan's Domain (Satan himself is a homosexual).
And I have first hand knowledge of what Christ (our savior) has spoken, for I accept his loving tendrils into my heart at every opportunity.
In spite of your words of hate and spewing of false Nazi information (I blame "science" not you) I will continue to pray for you Secksie. Go with peace.
Organized religion is like one gigantic mass delusion. Also you claim to "never engaged in intercourse out of choice..." so by that I presume you were forced at one time or another?
Oh and Kuro, according to your religion Dinosaurs never existed and the Earth is ~6000 years old. Discuss.
P.S. Millions of people have died "in the name of God", in countless wars. So saying that all you do is "in His name" is pretty out there. Serial killers have used that same line, and that's pretty bad company to be lumped in with.
India (commonly referred to as the world's biggest democracy) - BJP and Congress
Germany - Christian Democratic Union and the Social Democratic Party of Germany
France - French Socialist and the RPR which turned into the modern UMP
Jamaica - PNP and JLP
United States (because I only want to remember 9)
Britain - Labor and Conservatives
Canada (i don't actually know anything about canada's politics so i might be wrong, but i've definitely heard this)
Japan - (almost effectively dominant party in recent times though)
Taiwan - Pan-Green and Pan-Blue
There? Happy? When two parties are getting a large chunk of the vote, it makes it feel futile to vote for a different party, so they get disproportionately large sections of the vote. It's logical and happens nearly whenever incumbent parties stay in power for a reasonable amount of time.
America has two parties because the two parties conspire to keep third parties out of the political process. This was most evident with the reform party. My overall impression is just about every other country that made up "Western Civilization" is more open to multiple parties than we are.
America has two parties because the two parties conspire to keep third parties out of the political process. This was most evident with the reform party. My overall impression is just about every other country that made up "Western Civilization" is more open to multiple parties than we are.
Yes, we're probably even worse off than they are, but it isn't by much, to be fair.
Yes, we're probably even worse off than they are, but it isn't by much, to be fair.
people with IQ<100 are people, they definitely shouldn't be a part
of democracy
Well, stupid people quite clearly are people. The overall problem I have with it is when people claim democracies somehow represent the "will of the people" that just really isn't true.
And everything would work much better.
I don't think I could argue against that.
people with IQ<100 are people, they definitely shouldn't be a part
of democracy
Well, stupid people quite clearly are people. The overall problem I have with it is when people claim democracies somehow represent the "will of the people" that just really isn't true.
And everything would work much better.
I don't think I could argue against that.
And most of the people in the US (sadly enough) did support the wars.
people with IQ<100 are people, they definitely shouldn't be a part
of democracy
Well, stupid people quite clearly are people. The overall problem I have with it is when people claim democracies somehow represent the "will of the people" that just really isn't true.
And everything would work much better.
I don't think I could argue against that.
The real problem isn't the people being stupid, it's the people having little interest in politics and world affairs and thus, being ignorant of the trade going in that matter.
Many people mix intelligence with knowledge, both are 2 different things. An engineer is intelligent, a historian got knowledge, one doesn't prevent the other. There's not need to be a genius in order to vote, I'm not doing pure science in CEGEP and I'm still aware of what's happening in canadian politics.
As for France, I know there's at least 3 main group and many more smaller entities. Nicolas Sarkozy (UMP, right) Marie-Ségolène Royal (socialist party) and Jean-Marie Le Pen (Front national, big time right)
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